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austin-tatious wrote:
dicion wrote: It's hard to imagine, because it's not done here, but highways where everyone follows the 'move right when not passing' rule, are actually Very pleasant, and easy to drive on, with minimal lane changing required by all parties. You don't have to worry about people zooming up on your right, or people cutting you off, you know that all passing is done on the left, and no-one rides on your rear as you're passing, because they know you're going to move over as soon as you can after the pass. They don't feel any need to TELL you to move over, because it's second nature on these roads.

I have driven the autobahn in Germany twice now. What dicion describes is what they do there. Each time was over 1,000 miles for a one week's visit. Both times were marvelous experiences of courteous and efficient drivers.

But back to the topic! Instead of totally ignoring the road rager, What do you think of a smiling eye-contact and nod to them at first encounter, then back off while ignoring them from that point so they can go on their way?

I watched an interesting program on traffic enforcement regarding the Autobahn. From what I gathered, there is a high-degree of training of drivers regarding the rules of the road. I got the impression that law enforcement is primarily concerned with catching tail-gaters (in the sense of keeping proper distance between automobiles at any speed and in every lane, not just the left) and erratic drivers.

Purplehood

Just to clarify. I tend to stay in the middle lane (if it exists). On the southern end of the beltway it is almost exclusively 2 lanes. I generally use the left lane to pass.
What irks me is the individual that thinks that my high rate of speed that is passing slower traffic to the right is not a sufficiently high rate of speed and therefore needs to read the fine-print on my bumper while we are both doing 75-85 mph.
It is common sense to "yield" to faster traffic. It is not common sense to force folks to yield by riding on their behinds at high speeds.

EDIT: I hope that was civil.

Purplehood

sss wrote:
Purplehood wrote:So how fast is fast? The guy was in excess of the speed limit by 6 mph. That isn't fast enough and he needs to get out of the way? Should he be doing a minimum of 100mph? Please move to Germany and drive on the Autobahn.
I don't really care how fast he goes as long as he leaves the left lane open when a faster car is approaching. Please move out of Texas if you don't intend to follow the rules: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/V ... tn.545.051" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You left out the rules pertaining to safe driving speeds. How convenient.

Purplehood

dicion wrote:
Purplehood wrote: So how fast is fast? The guy was in excess of the speed limit by 6 mph. That isn't fast enough and he needs to get out of the way? Should he be doing a minimum of 100mph? Please move to Germany and drive on the Autobahn.
You obviously don't know the beltway.

6 over is right-lane speed. If you're not going 70, you will get run over.

There's the speed limit, and then there's what people actually drive... Trying to justify left-lane usage by saying 'im going over the speed limit' is not practical.

The left lane is the passing lane, plain and simple. If you are being Passed on the right in it, no matter if theyre passing you at 80mph, you are doing it wrong, and should move over and let them pass on the left.

Now, if the person was approaching SO FAST that you did not have time to move over between the time you saw him, and he was on your right side, then obviously, you couldn't move over. Not your fault. My question, however, is why were you in the left lane to begin with if there was (apparently) noone in the right lane next to you before this car came.

Not blaming anything on you, but I'm just saying how some people take the 'AAARGH!! LEFT LANE FOR PASSING ONLY!!! DIE!!!' thing way too seriously, so why give them fuel to their fire. Just move to the right lane whenever you can, even if there is noone directly behind you, just in case some crazy dude doing 100 suddenly appears on your rear and wants to pass.

I obviously DO know the beltway as I drive it every day to and from work. What I am talking about is the Mario Andretti idiots that zoom down the fast lane and expect you to move out of the way just because you are doing 80 mph and that just isn't fast enough. If you see my Charger or Challenger (both SRT's) tooling down the beltway in the fastlane and exceeding the speed-limit, don't expect me to move aside.

Purplehood

sss wrote:
gregthehand wrote:I was in the inside lane. Yes this is the fast lane and I was going a little over the speed limit. I would estimate this guy was doing something like 85-90 mph when he came up behind me.
The whole road rage thing is inexcusable, but left lane hogs are just as annoying to me. Why not leave the "fast lane" open for those who want to go fast?

So how fast is fast? The guy was in excess of the speed limit by 6 mph. That isn't fast enough and he needs to get out of the way? Should he be doing a minimum of 100mph? Please move to Germany and drive on the Autobahn.

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