TAM, I think ultimately you and I agree. After all, lack of situational awareness and putting yourself in a potentially bad-situation provide opportunity for the bad guy that may not have existed in the first place.The Annoyed Man wrote:Again, no argument out of me, and I never said there was.Purplehood wrote:I have to agree. Good judgement, bad judgement aside, there is absolutely no valid reason for a bad-guy to do bad things to those women...whatever time of day or night.
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- Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:10 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:19 pm
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I have to agree. Good judgement, bad judgement aside, there is absolutely no valid reason for a bad-guy to do bad things to those women...whatever time of day or night.gemini wrote:TAM: "That does not mean that I think they deserved specifically what happened to them; but it does mean that my sympathies are somewhat dampened, because it was their own stupidity that placed them there."
Sir, I was right with your post until I hit the above statement. Do I think their venture into the late night was a wise decision?
Not really. However, I also don't think they "deserved" anything. I think the same thing now as when this thread started. I am sorry her
brother wasn't a better shot, and I feel sympathy for the VICTIMS of a terrible crime. A crime that was committed by an individual who is solely responsible for his actions. Every mistake in a persons life does not "deserve specifically" any sort of punishment meted out by a
low life, slime ball felon. That is what happened in this instance.
If this ever goes to trial. Will the defense atty tell the jury "these girls were driving a convertible and getting something to eat at 2:30am so they deserved what happened to them?" Or will the DA simply state "these two young women were abducted, carjacked, kidnapped and sexually assaulted." I believe the time of day, what they were wearing or what they were driving will not be important (minor details).
My sympathies are entirely WITH the victims in this horrible crime. My sympathies are not dampened in any way. My anger and
disgust lay entirely with the perpetrator, I hold him entirely responsible for his actions.
- Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:46 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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I can think of a million (well maybe a thousand) jobs where a woman works legitimately in the middle of the night. When I worked at the CFS in San Diego for the post office my shift didn't start until the late evening, and I usually got home just before dawn depending on the frequent overtime we pulled. As I am sure you all know, many women work for the USPS.bdickens wrote:It might not be as easy for some as it is for you to avoid driving in a "bad neighborhood" at 2:30 AM.
And it isn't as easy for some as it is for others to impugne some young lady's character and motives with no information.
- Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:37 am
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Reminds me of General Patton and his statement to the effect that one should let the other guy (the enemy) die for his country, not you. I always tried to avoid putting myself in front of bullets. It is a safety issue.Embalmo wrote:KD5NRH wrote:Not since the last draft, they don't.Embalmo wrote:Yep, and soldiers get in front of bullets because they have to.
- Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:53 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Finally, a CHLer is portrayed as the victim
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I agree. Bad Idea doesn't necessarily equate to Bad people.gemini wrote:Although I don't think anything good happens after 12 midnight..... 2 girls sitting in line in a JackOldgringo wrote:OTOH, if the 20 somethings in their Mustang convertible hadn't been out at 2:30 in the morning doing whatever they were doing to attract attention - getting the attention - and then taking the BG (?) to Bro's apartment in the wee hours of the morn, none of this would have happened.joe817 wrote:Kudos to that man for having the same reasons we all do here for getting a CHL. Without a doubt, it saved his life.
The story smells er, uh...{fishy} .
In the Box, at whatever time of day or night, didn't deserve the unwanted attention of a carjacking
rapist. Both were sexually assaulted and obviously desparate to seek help (CHL brother) where
ever they thought they could get it. None of this would have happened if they had just stayed home
and watched TV? Get a grip. They are 20 something girls......probably been dancing or clubbing with
other friends. Stopped by the Jack to grab a bite to eat. When I read the story, my immediate thought
was; too bad her brother wasn't a better shot, and how sorry I was that this happened to 2 young gals.