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bzo311 wrote:First thing I'd do if I disabled what I thought was a lone BG, I'd reholster my weapon, keeping it a little more accessible if needed again (quite possibly with my hand on the butt at my waist VERY casually), while keeping a very close eye on the BG. Possible people whom may be around you, witnesses and others walking up after hearing a gun discharge in public don't need to see you pointing a gun at a disabled BG and drawing conclusions. This will keep people from freaking out and riling up the LEO(s) to your presence when they get there and will also keep other CHL holders and LEO's from mistaking you for a BG.

Try to get in touch, or back in touch, with a 911 operator to update them on the situation and hopefully get that info through to the responding LEO(s). Don't leave anything up to chance and don't flee the scene. Just act calmly and don't have your gun out if you don't need it out any further. When LEO(s) arrive have both hands visible away from pockets; place them in the air to flag them down. That will give you something non-aggressive and non-questionable to do with your hands while they approach. I would strongly suggest you identify yourself as the one whom "disabled" the BG and let them know you are a CHL holder and that you are currently still armed; use words not actions to get that across, ofcourse. Don't dig in pockets for yo0ur gun OR your CHL license until you're told to do so.

I have never been in any situations demanding of these actions, but I have read these forums and other stories and have pondered much. So, by all means, if you disagree with any of my opinions on the best course of actions let me know.

baldeagle wrote:

Excaliber wrote:It's definitely a good idea to work through the details before you find yourself in an actual situation.

In the interests of continuing plan refinement, if the BG is between you and the approaching police, and the BG selects that moment to initiate an attack on either you or the police, which of you can safely fire without endangering the other?

Consider also that, if you fired on the bad guy, both the police and any witnesses would in all likelihood see what appears to be you shooting at the police.

{{{Sigh}}}... thanks a lot, Excaliber.

This is a lot harder than I thought at first.

Let's see...I don't want to lose sight of the BG. I don't want to get in his way if he gets up and escapes. I don't want him to attack me again. I don't want the police to mistake me for a BG and shoot me. I can't trust 911 to convey the correct information to the responding officers. This is a dilemma wrapped in a conundrum.

The guy that was shot six times while holding the BG at gunpoint had his back to the officers. Apparently that's a bad idea, even when your wife tells the officers that her husband is the one with the gun, please don't shoot him. So I think I should be facing the officers, at least enough that they can see my hands and my gun, but I clearly cannot even appear to point my gun in their direction. So, if possible, the entering officers should be at 90 degrees or less to me, with the BG in view but not with the officers in the line of fire. If possible, I want the officers to see my strong hand and the fact that my finger is not on the trigger. The gun needs to be pointed toward the floor and directionally away from the officers.

Am I getting warmer?