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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:36 pm I'm just saying you don't get close to a guy like Putin. He is protected at all levels. It is going to take someone from inside his circle to turn on him to take out Putin.

Ruark wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:26 pm More news from prople in Ukraine. We have a close family friend who immigrated here from Ukraine about 8 years ago. Her parents and two sisters still live over there, in Kharvov, on the outskirts of town. She's been talking to them every day. They pretty much mirror what my wife's cousin, also in Kharkov, has been saying. They want to leave the area and go to western Ukraine, where it's a little quieter, but they can't. The violent Ukrainian nationalists have been blocking the streets, preventing people from leaving. One of her neighbors got in a car and tried to make a run for it, but the Ukranians started shooting at the car and they had to turn around or be killed. The Russians have created several "evacuation corridors" that most refugees have been using, but you still have to get from your home to the corridor. Her parents are elderly and afraid to go outside, for fear the Ukranians will shoot at them from nearby rooftops. Otherwise, they are OK; they have food, water and utilities.
All of them are desperately waiting for the Russians to clear out the nationalists. They're very frustrated and angry at the distorted reports in the western media. They're scared, because they feel it's all about oil and politics, and nobody cares about everyday people.
We will be talking with my wife's cousin, Svetlana, again tomorrow morning via Skype, in east central Kharkov.