I think when I pulled over and started pounding on the person they were fighting with they would know I was there to help them out.nitrogen wrote:I would think twice before stop to help a trooper either. I'm sorry, but I don't need his trigger happy backup tazering me or worse thinking i'm the suspect.
Our LEO's here in texas have a better attitude than most, but I honestly don't know what I'd do.
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- Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:29 pm
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
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- Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:27 pm
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
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Re: Negative Trooper Encounter
I would stop in a heartbeat and help out any law enforcement if need be. I would rather stop and get tasered or shot by mistake than know that I drove by an officer that was killed.kw5kw wrote:(Steve you'll recognize some of this)
Remember this is a "Shall Issue" license, which means if you meet all the requirements then the state MUST issue the license. Now, just because someone meets all of the legal requirements set forth, that doesn't mean that they are 'squeaky' clean. It just means that they have never been caught. So, keep that small fact in mind when I say that a person who is all tattooed up, might have a tad bit of alcohol on his breath gets pulled over, and that person has a CHL; dime to a donut that person gets their weapon ran.
Like Forest Gump said: "It's (a traffic stop in this case) like a box of chocolates; you never know what you're going to get." Troopers don't know what they're gonna get either when they make that stop. Just like Trooper Burns who pulled over a car on April 29, 2008. Trooper James Scott Burns, 39, was shot and killed by a driver he had stopped near the intersection of FM 729 and FM 1969, northeast of Lake of the Pines. At approximately 7:57 pm, Marion County dispatchers received a call over the trooper's radio from a citizen stating that the trooper had been shot. … Trooper Burns was the 83rd DPS trooper to die in the line of duty. Now, I never want to get that call.
(Check out our website for the tribute to the fallen troops. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/memorial/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; part of the above was taken from that site.)
Last week I got several calls from the general public that a trooper on the interstate was in a fight. I got him backup coming -- FAST; cause I didn't want one of the calls like I just posted. You know, not one of those callers offered to stop and help the Trooper; not one! There were weapons in the vehicle, and the guy very easily could have shot my troop. Thank the Good Lord above that he wasn't shot and killed. Winds up, stolen vehicle, stolen trailer carrying another stolen vehicle with a couple of stolen guns.
Fortunately, the guy had a record and didn't qualify for a CHL.
- Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:40 am
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
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Tell me what can be done? In a situation like this it is the troopers word versus the person pulled over. There is no way the trooper will be seen as wrong so tell me what can be done? Go ahead and go to court with no proof and claim that the trooper pulled over the wrong person and see what happens. Nothing short of a mutli angle video documentary that would have filmed the entire incident would change the view of the trooper versus the citizen. Your quote makes no sense, there was no evil committed here.nitrogen wrote:All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.mrvmax wrote: All I can say is that this is a battle you will never win so let it go and get on with your life.
--Edmund Burke
For all you naysayers think of this, sometimes we need to accept a little injustice and get on with your life. You need to pick your battles and forget the ones that cannot be won and focus on the ones that can. A documentary of Navy S.E.A.L. training showed an inspection of their dorm. After the recruits got their rooms spit shine clean the instructors chose a room at random and threw sand all over the room and trashed it. The instructor said he wanted to see how they handled injustice. The recruits just had to accept the injustice, correct it and get on with their life. I think the same lesson applies here.
- Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:32 pm
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
- Topic: Negative Trooper Encounter
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All I can say is that this is a battle you will never win so let it go and get on with your life. You will never prove that you did nothing warranting being pulled over. We will always run across injustices and many times there is nothing we can do about it. I was pulled over by DPS for a license plate light that was out. In reality that was just a reason to pull me over. The Trooper was nice and did what he need to do and let me go with a warning. He did not ask to see my gun and did not run the serial number, in fact he acted like he could care less that I had it next to me.hookem69 wrote:Commander Cody wrote:I don’t think it was such a bad encounter. Sure the LEO made a mistake with the ID of your auto. It is only human to make a mistake. The gun and all ID were returned and only a warning was issued. Not that bad IMHO.
With all due respect, I was issued a "warning" without breaking ANY laws. The point being that they had no business pulling me over. My vehicle was identifiable with a personalized license plate. I respectfully disagree with your take. Thanks for the input though.
Another time a motorcycle cop working funeral duty proceeded to pitch a fit and yell at me because he felt I was too close to the intersection where the funeral was passing by (I was at the light before they reached me, I was behind the line right where I was supposed to be). After yelling at me to move backwards he spent the entire time he was there making gestures at me with his hands, shaking his head and acting like he was somebody. I wanted to get out of my car and tell him how he was an idiot and so forth but I held back. I knew he could have made my day much worse so I just let it go. As he drove off I was wishing he would dump that Goldwing in the ditch for being a jerk. At least I know he was freezing his butt off while he sped off since it was winter and a cloudy, windy and cold day. Anyway, there was nothing I could do about it that would give any satisfaction so i forgot about it and got on with my life. I really do not see any major injustice done to you except for the running of the serial number.