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by SCone
Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

WillieD wrote:
Mithras61 wrote:My XD 45 Compact isn't DAO, it's SA. It has a long trigger pull and is striker fired, but the slide must be racked to cock it before it will fire. I keep it with one in the pipe, just like my 1911.
If the firing mechanism on the XD is like a Glock then the gun is DAO. The trigger pull actually pushes the firing pin back and releases the firing pin. The trigger can not reset itself without the slide coming back, but it is still not considered a SA like the 1911's.
According to Springfield's website...

The XD mechanism completely cocks (preloads) the spring-charged firing pin so that the only function provided by the trigger pull is to release the sear and fire the gun. By contrast, the Glock "Safe Action" only partly preloads the firing mechanism, and the trigger pull physically completes the cocking action as well as releasing the firing pin. The XD is therefore a true "single-action" trigger design because its trigger only performs one function--releasing the firing mechanism. The Glock is a true "double-action" trigger design in that its trigger contributes to the actual cocking of the mechanism as well as releasing it.
by SCone
Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

Guess I'll never understand???

Here's how I go from condition 3 to condition 1

With my gun in condition 3 (no round in chamber, full magazine)
ONE - Pull trigger
TWO - Rack slide
THREE - Engage safety
FOUR - Release trigger
I'm now in condition 1 (round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety on)

The gun could only fire during step TWO if the slide slips out of your hand AND the half-cock were to shear. Not likely since the slide is blocking the hammer from falling at full speed. So at worst case, the hammer drops to the half-cock position with reduced force.
by SCone
Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

A simple slide rack and you go from condition 3 to condition 0 when the time comes.
by SCone
Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

Seems that Mr Browning's original design didn't even have a thumb safety. It was added to meet the Army's design criteria. And since the Army taught the weapon to be carried in "condition 3" until needed....... wouldn't it make sense to say that Mr Browning designed the gun to be carried in "condition 3"? And the thumb safety is a way to easily make the gun "safe" for short periods of time?
by SCone
Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:56 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

Maybe you'll like this one better...

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/96599/pro ... guatemala/

Just turn the sound down if you don't care for the music.

PS-Sorry for the language in the last video, I didn't listen to the audio, just watched the technique.
by SCone
Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:40 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

Here's one...

http://www.truveo.com/On-the-Mossad-Dra ... /974027767

Not a full draw from a holster, but it gives you the idea of how quick it can be.
by SCone
Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12974

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

Regardless of your choice, know it & be ready when needed.

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