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- Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:21 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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It should be clear that if someone is using a toy gun or bb to rob or threat someone the response can be deadly by CHLer. In the case of the kids in the park, no hint or thought of deploying deadly gorce was ever considered and threat of calling the police was just a scare tactic.
- Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:04 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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Ok, I was refering to that fact that in Texas citzens could be armed, we do have a CHL. Not like in Cali, NY or illinous or other Anti states. I know there are many more other states that have a CHL/shall issue.
- Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:59 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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I meant if the kid was pointing what look like a black rifle at someone who might be armed, the armed person may draw on the poor kid as his action could be considered a threat.03Lightningrocks wrote:I can't quit hanging on your words that "You can get shot. This is Texas". Can you esplain this one to me? I thought it was possible to get shot anywhere... except Kalifornia, where shooting folks is clearly against the law.
- Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:23 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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, In my teens, I had next door friend who lost an eye when "indirectly" shot in the eye with a BB. You know, losing and eye is not fun. It is life changing event. You can't even hide it behind crystal eye ball. I do not mind other kids having fun in their backyard, in professional place, in the woods even where there is no one around.
- Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:24 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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No Eye protection whatsoever. The battlefield was some 100 ft wide and divided by a small water canal and woody bridge. Rapid suppressive fire, more or less ineffective, was conducted from 30-50 ft away.Aggiedad wrote:gigag04 wrote:As far as I can tell from reading, the type of toys has yet to be positively ID'ed, whether it is closer to a nerf gun or an airsoft gun. If it was in fact an airsoft or BB gun, then I can see the OPs point - if it was closer to nerf (which the initial telling of the story seemed to relay), then I think the danger was exaggerated, and the OP over reacted.
Also, we don't know if they (the kids shooting the toy guns) were wearing eye protection.
It probably would have been better if those kids took their "war" to their own back yard so there would be no collateral damage.
Ah, the good ol' days where kids could walk down the street carrying their bb guns (or sometimes a 22 rifle) and all the police would do is wave as they drove by. Also, we used to ride bikes barefoot and with no helmet ... oh the carnage!
- Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:29 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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Airsoft. It looked like a rifle with that bright orange Muzzle flash hider.MadMonkey wrote:Soooo.... was it nerf or Airsoft? If it was Airsoft I'd be jumping all over them, I have multiple scars from bare skin getting nailed with those babies at about 400fps. If it was nerf... no problem.
- Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:15 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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Sorry, you need excuse my lack of experience with those "air soft" toys, some 30 years I did not have the chance to play with those. My apologizes.gigag04 wrote:Was it airsoft or nerf? OPs posts are conflicting. There is nothing soft about an airsoft pellet.
If they were running co2 airsoft guns than that might be worth a warning.
- Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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- Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:27 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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I agree. Scare tactics, Just wasn't on that scare tactics tv show. I agree the boy looked like a nerd.gigag04 wrote:Don't call the police for a nerd gun. We have plenty else to deal with. The kids were having fun at a park. That's why it's there right? So they're not out vandalizing and slinging dope?
- Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:59 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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What nerf gun? What are those toys that shoot BB size or bit bigger balls with compressed CO2?bcdudley wrote:just my opinion, but I think you over reacted a bit. There is a big difference between a bb gun or a paint ball gun, and a nerf gun. If the police were called, I would hope they would not do anything to kids playing in a park.
It sounds like they were already having their "war" and you decided to sit in the middle of their battleground and make it an issue. If other kids and parents are not complaining about it, then let it go.
Again, just my opinion on what I would have done.
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- Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:08 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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City Code, Park and Recreation:
Sec. 11-18. - Prohibited acts.
It shall be unlawful for any person to commit any one (1) or more of the following acts in a park:
6)
To carry, (unless permitted under (5) above), or discharge firearms, fireworks, bb guns, airguns, bows and arrows, slingshots, blowgun, rockets or paint-ball guns unless authorized by the director.
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Sec. 11-18. - Prohibited acts.
It shall be unlawful for any person to commit any one (1) or more of the following acts in a park:
6)
To carry, (unless permitted under (5) above), or discharge firearms, fireworks, bb guns, airguns, bows and arrows, slingshots, blowgun, rockets or paint-ball guns unless authorized by the director.
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- Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:59 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
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Dealing with Teens fighting a war in the Park!
Yesterday, my kids had a day off and I was off too. We decided to take the kids to a park (a new park in our city that we do not frequent so often, next to a nice pond full of ducks).
We arrived and then proceeded to unload our folding chairs and our pick-nick lunch. My 2 kids run straight to the play ground. As I do my first approach, I notice a kid, a 14 yrs boy holding what appears to be toy rifle that was emitting electric gun fire. I knew it was a toy, but I immediately started hearing the wizzing sound of flying projectiles(soft balls?). That damn thing was shooting in full blast soft balls in my direction. The kid was standing 2-3 ft behind a tree and firing to the direction of the play ground/slides. I was just passing in the middle of his fireline.
That got to my nerve when I looked at the kid and he kept pointing his plastic toy at my direction and firing some more! I yelled at him to stop where he was cause I am calling the Police. He respond, "please Don't we are fighting a war!"
My wife came after me saying they are just kids and there are 2 more kids hiding in the playground behind the slide firing back at that boy and begged me not to call the police. She added, "they are just kids, playing around". I got more frustrated by her attitude, but decided to better cool down in my car while still holding my cell phone in my hand.
The older teen yelled back we are leaving and was packing in hurry. 30 sec later he approaches my car and wave that he would like to talk to me. In short, he wanted to apologize and I drilled him down that:
1) You can't play war in public park with flying projectiles. Soft balls, BB using a toy or whatever, you can't do that. It is illegal.
2) If you point what appears like a rifle you could get shot, or worse get killed. This is Texas!
The kid was apologizing a bit more and silently went back home with his 2 friends. I hope he learned a lesson. The next 15min I was cooling down and trying to enjoy the rest of the breeze, cold and partially sunny day.
We arrived and then proceeded to unload our folding chairs and our pick-nick lunch. My 2 kids run straight to the play ground. As I do my first approach, I notice a kid, a 14 yrs boy holding what appears to be toy rifle that was emitting electric gun fire. I knew it was a toy, but I immediately started hearing the wizzing sound of flying projectiles(soft balls?). That damn thing was shooting in full blast soft balls in my direction. The kid was standing 2-3 ft behind a tree and firing to the direction of the play ground/slides. I was just passing in the middle of his fireline.
That got to my nerve when I looked at the kid and he kept pointing his plastic toy at my direction and firing some more! I yelled at him to stop where he was cause I am calling the Police. He respond, "please Don't we are fighting a war!"
My wife came after me saying they are just kids and there are 2 more kids hiding in the playground behind the slide firing back at that boy and begged me not to call the police. She added, "they are just kids, playing around". I got more frustrated by her attitude, but decided to better cool down in my car while still holding my cell phone in my hand.
The older teen yelled back we are leaving and was packing in hurry. 30 sec later he approaches my car and wave that he would like to talk to me. In short, he wanted to apologize and I drilled him down that:
1) You can't play war in public park with flying projectiles. Soft balls, BB using a toy or whatever, you can't do that. It is illegal.
2) If you point what appears like a rifle you could get shot, or worse get killed. This is Texas!
The kid was apologizing a bit more and silently went back home with his 2 friends. I hope he learned a lesson. The next 15min I was cooling down and trying to enjoy the rest of the breeze, cold and partially sunny day.