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txyaloo wrote:

o b juan wrote:I am not geared and dumb enough to go out in public with an sbr concealed on my person or exposed, some folks have a lot of time on their hands to ask this.. I am retired and really have lots of time , so I will either go to the gun range or Golf course...
Tell us how it goes down when you do it in todays climate.
Dont wear any black or camouflage

I'm an 07/02 FFL with a post sample Glock 19 machine gun. The frame is also SBR'd. It's pretty easy to conceal that "rifle" when out and about. I also regularly carry an MP5-K in a laptop bag. I don't think it's dumb to carry either of those when the law permits their carry.

gljjt wrote:

NotRPB wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

NotRPB wrote:Good price for a briefcase sized carbine for those clinics/doctors offices that post 30.06 where I have to leave my Glock "handguns" in the car
It's easier to carry a briefcase than my guitar case/tennis racket case with the aK47 folder in clinics/doctors offices posted 30.06 where I have to leave my Glock "handguns" in the car
You posted days after I got lucky & found one online, I paid more ...mine arrives Friday at my FFL, I'm always a day late ...

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Glock 26 ... I'm in Central TX, I plan to be in Houston (Pasadena) around Xmas it that's still around then ...we'll see :) I carry twin 26s now

Easily fits in a computer bag and the top of a tackle box too.

But is it really legal to carry this past a 30.06 sign?

But is it really legal to carry this past a 30.06 sign?
Simple Logical Answer ... What does a 30.06 sign forbid?
Forbids a CHL (Handgun Licensee, licensed under chapter 411 ...) from carrying his HANDGUN past that sign
A) this is not a handgun,
B) There is NO license required at all to carry a LONGARM/Rifle anyway,
C) 30.06 does not apply to longarms
D) 30.06 does not apply to any guns carried NOT under license of chapter 411...
E) Chapter 411 does not apply to longarms, only handguns
HOWEVER YOU CANNOT CARRY ANY FIREARM where FIREARMS ARE PROHIBITED

But where Licensed Handgun carriers are prohibited by a 30.06 sign, unless otherwise prohibited, (see above RE: Firearms) a 30.06 sign never applied to longarms

AK47 RIFLE / LONGARM in a guitar case (Or open carried if dumb enough to open carry it past a 30.06 sign>>> asking for trouble ) is not a handgun being carried under my Concealed handgun license/license to (open) carry a handgun...

I'm not a lawyer, but you have to make an AK or AR or a hunting rifle or a Carbine into a handgun for 30.06 to apply (I'm not addressing Firearms in general or other parts of Penal code, just the question asked)

sub2000 is easier briefcase than an AK in a guitar case ... just a matter of convenience if I have to leave the Glocks in the car for car thieves, I don't want to get back to the car with my Glocks in their hands and nothing in mine..

gljjt wrote:Many 30.06 signs look similar to this. I believe this sign would preclude carry of the Sub2000 wherever is posted.

http://images.mysecuritysign.com/img/md ... 2-0254.png

That's a typical 30.06 sign
I disagree

Sign says
" concealed handgun licensee licensed under Chapter 411 (which does not address rifles) may not carry a concealed handgun..."
a rifle long gun is not a handgun
As I stated there's no license required to carry a rifle

30.06 doesn't address rifles
Chapter 411 doesn't address rifles

The 30.06 sign is not addressed to rifle carriers, whether licensed to carry umbrellas/handguns/drive cars/ or not

You may not carry a concealed rifle anywhere FIREARMS are prohibited by law
There is NO LAW regarding concealed longarms/concealed rifle licenses... there are laws regarding Places FIREARMS are prohibited
a Rifle is a FIREARM
A rifle is not a handgun

(... just showing why a sub2000 RIFLE in a briefcase/laptop case is useful to have at 30.06 posted doctor's office where you must leave HANDGUNS outside )

VMI77 wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

NotRPB wrote:

gljjt wrote:Many 30.06 signs look similar to this. I believe this sign would preclude carry of the Sub2000 wherever is posted.

http://images.mysecuritysign.com/img/md ... 2-0254.png

That's a typical 30.06 sign
I disagree

You may not carry a concealed rifle anywhere FIREARMS are prohibited by law
There is NO LAW regarding concealed longarms/concealed rifle licenses... there are laws regarding Places FIREARMS are prohibited
a Rifle is a FIREARM
A rifle is not a handgun

(My sincere apologies to OP for the thread hijack, just showing why a sub2000 RIFLE in a briefcase/laptop case is useful to have at 30.06 posted doctor's office where you must leave HANDGUNS outside )

So, where would a rifle be prohibited? I'm not asking just for the fun of it, I have go to a place where 30.06 signs are posted and I would like to carry the sub2000 in a computer bag. My concern is this: I'm sure I'd be stopped if I entered the place I have in mind with a visible rifle, so while there may not be a law prohibiting concealed long arms, I wonder if there may be an issue of concealing one in order to enter. I guess part of my concern is that it just seems too easy...and hence, too good to be true.

My short answer, you can't carry a rifle anywhere a rifle or weapons or firearms are prohibited... there's no "license to carry a rifle" in Texas.

In the 1970s I carried a loaded double barrel down Main Street in Houston daily, broke-open not in a threatening manner, a Cop once asked if it was legal length, I offered to give him a tape measure, he just laughed and drove away.

Personally, I don't intend to open carry anything, except a revolver with snakeshot in it out in the middle of a lake maybe.

Next on shopping list ... Concealed Crossbow (not a "firearm," but still prohibited where "Weapons" are prohibited)

Apologies if anything I coped from other thread was duplicative.

Lawyers, Legislators and other smart people, please feel free to weigh in here :)

The gunbuster sign invokes 30.05 trespass. The sign shown is really 2 signs (1) gunbuster invokes 30.05, criminal trespass for long guns, (2) text invokes 30.06 for licensed handguns.

ScottDLS wrote:You can carry a long gun concealed or otherwise anywhere where it is not prohibited by federal or state law. TXPC 46.02 only refers to "a handgun, illegal knife, or club...". 46.03 refers to "firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon...

Other than in the 46.03 locations there is no state prohibition on carrying a rifle or non-handgun "firearm" anywhere you like. 30.06 and 30.07 only apply to carrying a handgun under the authority of your LTC.

Criminal trespass TXPC 30.05 could potentially apply, but you must RECEIVE NOTICE that your presence is not allowed and then remain, in order to violate it. 30.06/7 language is not defined as NOTICE in 30.05.

It is therefore legal to carry a SBR, SBS, machinegun, etc. concealed or otherwise , as long as you aren't violating any other law by doing it (NFA, GFSZA, ...)