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- Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:55 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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I complied and had no further issue s
- Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:20 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Posted 30.06 and 30.07. The last time I was there.LTCTLB wrote:Quick question about Sea World...
Is it still 30.06 posted? By posts here it suggests yes it is; however, Texas3006.com has a moderator edit stating "It has been noted that the 30.06 signs may have been removed." We are going to be there tomorrow...want to know what to expect.
- Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:55 pm
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- Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:28 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Thanks all. I shared my experience not as complaint or "venting". Rather, it is to share that rights can be restricted at will. Fight for your rights the smart way. Vote for those who uphold your rights not those who want to take them away.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:39 pm
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TexasTornado wrote:The best defense is staying out of victim zones to begin with.Beiruty wrote:None that I could see, but if I had seen some aggressiveness or any kind of trouble, I still had my trusty PX4 Knife. Attack is the best defense.Javier730 wrote:Were they open carrying ak47s?Beiruty wrote: BTW, At the park I saw folks that they looked like ISIS guys with their families. Did it peak my interest, yes. Was I concerned? no.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:36 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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None that I could see, but if I had seen some aggressiveness or any kind of trouble, I still had my trusty PX4 Knife. Attack is the best defense.Javier730 wrote:Were they open carrying ak47s?Beiruty wrote: BTW, At the park I saw folks that they looked like ISIS guys with their families. Did it peak my interest, yes. Was I concerned? no.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:34 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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First, no need for salty language.glock27 wrote:Why even tell them you have a chl? And why take a mag if your gun is in the car? That all seems stupid to me. You made trouble in a case it didnt need to be made. Ignorance imo. Why push buttons if your willing to comply?
Second, let us say I was testing the limits of my rights. However, since it was not the case,I did not expect security check. That is all. I was complying with the 30.06 and 30.07 sign posted in the parking lot.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:54 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Thank you!RicoTX wrote:I can't offer any insight, but wanted to say you have a beautiful family and I'm glad yall were able to enjoy the day after all the delay.
Long live the 2ndA.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:53 pm
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It has both valid 30.06 and 30.07 signs some 100 yard before the main entrance (while coming from the parking lot).TexasTornado wrote:I'm not sure if Sea World is 30.06 posted or not, but at venues like this that are NOT posted (no rule 4 violations here), I always ankle carry. I've never had any trouble walking past the teenagers with wands etc. either.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:50 pm
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Never had a problem with English. The Officer and the bag guy with a 10" probe never had a problem conversing with me. An Arabic Speaker would be an advantage for the those "guests" who do not speak English. I have no issues with him being around. I do not play stupid games and I do not expect disastrous bad rewards.lowdogtx wrote:I guess in confused why did they think they need someone to speak in Arabic to you?Is you English poor? I speak Spanish but you would not know it from my west Texas accent. I think I would find it a little offensive if they felt the need to have someone speak another language to me. Its like don't try anything sneaky. Just my thought
BTW, At the park I saw folks that they looked like ISIS guys with their families. Did it peak my interest, yes. Was I concerned? no.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:06 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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My wife and my Mother-in-Law were wearing veils. Did it matter, maybe. I was the only they were interested in. On the good side, here is a photo from the walk-by-the-river boat ride.rotor wrote:Do you think it is because of your religion? SeaWorld has taken such a bad rap lately with their killer whale stuff I guess they are really cautious about everything. I am glad they are at least attempting to make their gun free zone a safe zone. The fact that they had someone who speaks Arabic come up to you means they are profiling. I hate to see this happening but I understand why they are. If you were disarmed beforehand I wouldn't have given them any info about your LTC status. Did you enjoy the show? I personally never cared for SeaWorld but my wife likes it.
The arabic speaker was Palestinian Christian, good Arabic speaker and not that offensive at all.
This is my 3 trip to Seaworld. Seaworld is fun if you have kids or guests/family to entertain for a day. It was fun but hot and muggy. It rained in the morning too.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:54 pm
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They were inspecting every bag or pack. I disclosed to the LEOs.Keith B wrote:First mistake, if you are unarmed and they are private security, you shouldn't have disclosed you were a LTC holder. No legal or valid reason to do so. That would have probably ended right there with you being allowed to pass.
- Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:50 pm
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Disarming at Seaworld, San Antonio was not enough
I disarmed at Seaworld, San Antonio before entering but it was not enough. There are LEOs on standby and private employee inspecting the bags of those entering the Seaworld park. All seemed justified due to the recent soft targets attacks.
I removed my pistol from Tommy's pack and kept it in my SUV. the 2 extra mags stayed in the pack next to T.knife and Flashlight. Upon inspection, a lady Police Officer was promptly summoned to investigate and I declared that I have a CHL, I am disarmed.
First, I was asked why I am carrying. I said I am not and my firearm was in the vehicle and as matter of course I displayed my CHL/DL. Then, I was asked why I am carrying ammo in magazines. I responded, is that a problem? And, why I cannot carry ammo? Short answer, I am not allowed to have ammo inside the park. I requested to go back to my vehicle and leave the magazines there. I got the Ok, I asked if I can keep the knife and a flashlight with me and I was given the Okay.
Back to my SUV, I stored the magazines there and came back to the checkpoint.
Same Officer, approached me again and I let her inspect my pack. I thought I was done. Nope, she requested my "credentials" again. I happily provided both as requested. My name was recorded on small notepad. Unusual, but it still fine with me.
Ah, Now I thought we are in the clear and I could proceed to the park. Nope, another private security employee who speaks Arabic approached us again after we passed the security checkpoint and asked again, this time in Arabic, if I have my piece on me? Where are we from? I restated the obvious and I declared again that I kept a knife and a flashlight on me. We were held up until he could confirm that everything is Okay.
5 mins later, we got the green light and we were wished to have a great and joyful day at Seaworld.
Extra safety measures. Yes. warranted yes. However, I saw huge bags being patted and puffed and let them in. Soft Drink or liquid containers were also problematic.
I guess good guys would comply happily, bad guys would bypass the security theater.
I removed my pistol from Tommy's pack and kept it in my SUV. the 2 extra mags stayed in the pack next to T.knife and Flashlight. Upon inspection, a lady Police Officer was promptly summoned to investigate and I declared that I have a CHL, I am disarmed.
First, I was asked why I am carrying. I said I am not and my firearm was in the vehicle and as matter of course I displayed my CHL/DL. Then, I was asked why I am carrying ammo in magazines. I responded, is that a problem? And, why I cannot carry ammo? Short answer, I am not allowed to have ammo inside the park. I requested to go back to my vehicle and leave the magazines there. I got the Ok, I asked if I can keep the knife and a flashlight with me and I was given the Okay.
Back to my SUV, I stored the magazines there and came back to the checkpoint.
Same Officer, approached me again and I let her inspect my pack. I thought I was done. Nope, she requested my "credentials" again. I happily provided both as requested. My name was recorded on small notepad. Unusual, but it still fine with me.
Ah, Now I thought we are in the clear and I could proceed to the park. Nope, another private security employee who speaks Arabic approached us again after we passed the security checkpoint and asked again, this time in Arabic, if I have my piece on me? Where are we from? I restated the obvious and I declared again that I kept a knife and a flashlight on me. We were held up until he could confirm that everything is Okay.
5 mins later, we got the green light and we were wished to have a great and joyful day at Seaworld.
Extra safety measures. Yes. warranted yes. However, I saw huge bags being patted and puffed and let them in. Soft Drink or liquid containers were also problematic.
I guess good guys would comply happily, bad guys would bypass the security theater.