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by Beiruty
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

mojo,
Extremists and terrorists ideology of justifying all means possible to advance their power reign is utter misguidance for any educated Muslim.
Here is a historical proof.

When Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him returned to Makka with 10,000 soldiers, the pagans Arabs surrendered.
What was their fate after all the torture early Muslims suffered by the Makkan's pagans?
Revenge? Torture them all?
Kill them all wherever you find them?
Make them all slaves?
Take away all their properties?
Deport them from Makka?

None, of the above!
The Prophet Muhammed Peace be upon, made them all safe in self and properties and made them all
FREE,
FREE,
FREE people.
by Beiruty
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:21 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Vol Texan wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:36 am I’m Catholic. I hate terrorists, whether they are radical Islamists, Irish Catholics vs Irish Protestants, or Oklahoma bombers. I recognize that a great percentage of the terrorism in the world right now claims to Represent Islam, but many of my Muslim friends denounce the actions of these radicals, the same way I denounce the acts of so-called Christian Klansmen.

I’ve traveled the world, and have enjoyed meals and conversations with friends and colleagues who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhists, and Hindus - among others. I have found this experience to be very fulfilling, and yet I am a die-hard conservative who would turn the terrorist strongholds of the Middle East into a parking lot if I had my way.

But, can we please stop bashing our own here on this site? This is the SECOND full thread to get hijacked, and I’m sure I’m not the only member here who is sick of it!!!!

Mojo, I’d enjoy breaking bread with you, but I’d also gladly have Beiruty and his family over to my home for dinner to discuss similarities and differences in our faiths.

From my readings of this site, I believe you’re both fine men of convictions. Let’s leave it at that, please.

Peace be with you in this Easter season, and a salaam alaikum.
May peace reign everywhere. Peace upon those who love peace and despise hate.
Vol Texan, thanks for your kind words and you are most welcome to having you on our table anytime.
by Beiruty
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:17 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

RoyGBiv wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:43 am
Vol Texan wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:36 amBut, can we please stop bashing our own here on this site? This is the SECOND full thread to get hijacked, and I’m sure I’m not the only member here who is sick of it!!!!
:iagree: :patriot:
I edited my post as not start a war of flames, maybe it is too late...

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by Beiruty
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:00 pm
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Better not to speculate.
by Beiruty
Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:33 pm
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Bitter Clinger wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:44 am
mojo84 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:32 am
Beiruty wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:41 am
Bitter Clinger wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:11 am Judge Jeanine Was Right About Rep. Omar
The Muslim Brotherhood has made it clear that its mission is to overthrow the U.S. Constitution and impose Sharia. The pattern of Islam is to use the courts, schools, art museums, political offices, and other major institutions including outreach to churches to infiltrate, gradually introduce Sharia, and then finally takeover a nation.
http://drcarolehhaynes.com/index.php/ar ... -was-right
Judge Perro in the above article was Attacking Muslims 1stA or Questioning their loyalty to US. That is un-American. Not Kosher, Mr. Bitter.
Muslims would defend their 1stA right with their 2ndA right.
Please, do not conflagrate Hamas/Islamists Brotherhood with US politics.
It is not un-American to question someone's loyalty to the United States, especially, when that person is known to support beliefs contrary to the Constitution and laws of the United States and is a member of congress. The challenge with Islam and many Muslims is that their holy book combines religion and politics/government. Therefore, they are the ones that do the conflating.

Whether it is kosher or not, I have no clue since I am not Jewish. However, it seems to be ok for a Muslim to question a Jew or Christian beliefs and patriotism but not the other way around. When there is a group that wants to change the fundamentals of our country or eliminate it and it by whatever means necessary based upon their holy book, it is very American to call them out on it, especially, if someone that holds such beliefs is a member of congress.

Is is very tough to reconcile the three religions when the discussion seem to always comes down fighting and conquering the other.
Ok, so let's try this. As an American, and as a practicing Jew, I do not hesitate to challenge, to argue, and to condemn those (typically left wing) Jews who I believe, through their words and actions, are bent on destroying this country. I give you Chuck Schumer as "Exhibit A", may his memory be erased.

Now I have socialized with Beiruty, I have gone shooting together with him, and I find him to an engaging and intelligent individual. But I remain puzzled by what I perceive as a reluctance on his part to clearly publicly condemn Omar and Islamic terror. But perhaps I am wrong and it may simply be that as an American I am more direct, or even blunt in my speech. To the point where my speech would be considered impolite were I to be overseas.

What say you both?
I clearly stated that terrorism is forbidden in Islam. So condemning it is just a lip service for a practicing Muslim. You may care to hear me condemn it, but the matter of fact, it is forbidden in Islam.
What else do you like me to say? I said it before, I condemn all kind of terrorism regardless of who is the actor, an Islamist, Christian, a Jew, or an atheist.
by Beiruty
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:49 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Bitter Clinger wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am
Beiruty wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:41 am
Bitter Clinger wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:11 am Judge Jeanine Was Right About Rep. Omar
The Muslim Brotherhood has made it clear that its mission is to overthrow the U.S. Constitution and impose Sharia. The pattern of Islam is to use the courts, schools, art museums, political offices, and other major institutions including outreach to churches to infiltrate, gradually introduce Sharia, and then finally takeover a nation.
http://drcarolehhaynes.com/index.php/ar ... -was-right
Judge Perro in the above article was Attacking Muslims 1stA or Questioning their loyalty to US. That is un-American. Not Kosher, Mr. Bitter.
Muslims would defend their 1stA right with their 2ndA right.
Please, do not conflagrate Hamas/Islamists Brotherhood with US politics.
Fair enough. Then answer this one question please:

Do you agree that the Muslim Brotherhood, and it's US fund raising propaganda arm, CAIR, are terrorist organizations?
The Muslim Brotherhood is power hungry organization. At many times, it was opearting in secrecy. I do not like them at all.
As for their classification as T.O. I defer your request to the department of Justice.
by Beiruty
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:41 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Bitter Clinger wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:11 am Judge Jeanine Was Right About Rep. Omar
The Muslim Brotherhood has made it clear that its mission is to overthrow the U.S. Constitution and impose Sharia. The pattern of Islam is to use the courts, schools, art museums, political offices, and other major institutions including outreach to churches to infiltrate, gradually introduce Sharia, and then finally takeover a nation.
http://drcarolehhaynes.com/index.php/ar ... -was-right
Judge Perro in the above article was Attacking Muslims 1stA or Questioning their loyalty to US. That is un-American. Not Kosher, Mr. Bitter.
Muslims would defend their 1stA right with their 2ndA right.
Please, do not conflagrate Hamas/Islamists Brotherhood with US politics.
by Beiruty
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:41 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Bitter Clinger wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:59 am
bblhd672 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:55 am
Beiruty wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:48 am Since you are attacking my credibility and integrity here is a US source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/worl ... oting.html
NY Times...integrity...lol....that word left the NYT a long time ago.
Beiruty wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:32 pm I am out of this thread.
Beiruty wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:36 am Admins: please lock it up.
Quit posting and this thread will fade away.
The youth that he decries are indeed tragic. They are the helpless pawns of the surrounding Arab countries who abandoned them.

He simply refuses to condemn radical Islamic terror and Rep. Omar, who supports terror organizations and is therefore a traitor. The silence speaks volumes.
Your beef is with Rep. Omar, now you are attacking me blantly.
I refuse to go that route, and in this case silence speaks volumes.
by Beiruty
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:48 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Since you are attacking my credibility and integrity here is a US source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/worl ... oting.html
by Beiruty
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:35 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
Replies: 421
Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

I am defending no one.
You keep implying the IDF is clear from any human rights violations and he is taking the high road.

I said it before, the next generation of Palestinian youth would rise to demand their rights.
If you would like to see other videos of gore and mayhem and killing Civilian medics by IDF snipers, let me know. We can take it via PM.

Please do not attack my integrity.
by Beiruty
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:45 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Bitter Clinger wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:31 am
Beiruty wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:36 am Admins: please lock it up.
Please stop trying to rationalize and defend evil.
See for yourself, know the truth. Killing Civilians is not kosher.
by Beiruty
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:36 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Admins: please lock it up.
by Beiruty
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:16 pm
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

rotor wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:51 pm Gentlemen, enough please.
Thanks for the reminder.
by Beiruty
Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:33 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Bitter since you claimed Muslims were Nazi allies.
Here is the other half of the story that either you failed to disclose or you were ignorant of that fact

Muslims fought for the allies against the axis.

by Beiruty
Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:08 am
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Topic: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar
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Views: 135172

Re: Nobody but Ilhan Abdullahi Omar

Speak the truth, fear no one.

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