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by flintknapper
Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:10 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Freaky Situation Yesterday
Replies: 21
Views: 3050

Re: Freaky Situation Yesterday

Daltex1 wrote:You guys are making it seem as I was Gung-ho going and clearing my house, that is not the case at all...I know property is not worth losing your life over but insurance does not cover things you can not replace. I do not at all think anyone should do this , as I was lucky not to confront some crackhead in my house. I will think twice about doing that again. It is just not what you are making me :fire out to be, some gun-toting guy eager to confront the BG and get a kill. NOT AT ALL.
Naw,

We are just being quick to point out (if you didn't already know) that "clearing" a building (even one you know) is inherently dangerous. It's your safety we are concerned with.

If you haven't already had training...then study up on it and you will quickly see why.

I'd do it alone if family members or loved ones were in immediate peril, but would never do it to prevent theft of property or with the idea that I was going to "catch" the crook.

Another thing to consider (and this applies to the agencies that send in just two officers), is that more and more...these days, burglaries and home invasions are done in groups, meaning more than one person.

DO NOT "assume" you will meet up with just ONE person/threat....or that they will necessarily "give up" when you confront them.

So, please do not take the advice offered here...as "admonishment"... but instead an effort to help you and others recognize the danger involved.

Respectfully,

Flint.
by flintknapper
Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Freaky Situation Yesterday
Replies: 21
Views: 3050

Re: Freaky Situation Yesterday

CHL/LEO wrote: We clear with two officers.

Depending on the building it could be done with two, the military likes to have at least 3 (someone to cover the "six" and elevated positions) but their entries tend to be more dynamic. Two wouldn't work in my home, the floorplan makes it a nightmare to clear.
You could do more but the key is NEVER to separate anyone from the group - you stay together as a team. A separate group or person wandering around is more likely to get shot.
Maybe. It also creates a target rich environment and affords a "shooter" the opportunity to engage several officers with little movement on his part. Splitting off (especially when entering rooms)... puts the threat at a tactical disadvantage because he must contend with fire/threats from at least two positions. Again, it depends on the circumstance and the level of training the officers have as to whether or not this is a viable tactic.
With large warehouses or office buildings we usually call for a K-9 officer to clear it with his dog - they usually do it all alone.
Makes sense. A good dog will use his keen eyesight, hearing and sense of smell to locate a threat and "alert" the officer. You wouldn't want anyone except the handler in there with the animal, the dogs job is to locate a person (anyone). They will not necessarily make any distinction between cop and crook. So, if the dog has been "sent" rather than on tether, I know I wouldn't want to be in there. ;-)
by flintknapper
Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:00 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Freaky Situation Yesterday
Replies: 21
Views: 3050

Re: Freaky Situation Yesterday

jbirds1210 wrote:If I find my door kicked in on my unoccupied house, I am going to get some help. Am I capable of running in and looking cool? Sure! There really isn't anything other than the people in my house that are worth dying for. If they are safe.....I am going to stay there and protect them from becoming a hostage.

Clearing a building alone is tricky and dangerous at best.

I have home insurance that can take care of anything stolen. I would rather lose my watch and TV than leave my family without a husband and father. I have not always felt this way......I guess we all change.

Just wait a few minutes and if someone was inside, they will have a team to contend with. :biggrinjester:

Jason
Even at a 3 to 1 ratio is it tricky and dangerous. Always best to call the police and let them handle it (if circumstance allows).

The average homeowner has no clue how to "clear" a dwelling anyway. So, like you....I'm going to back out just for lack of "numbers".

Also, even though I am intimately familiar with the interior of my home, the layout of it makes it virtually impossible for even two people to make entry and not expose themselves.

House clearing is very risky business.....as you will be finding out soon. ;-)
by flintknapper
Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:32 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Freaky Situation Yesterday
Replies: 21
Views: 3050

Re: Pedalman made the right choice

ambitman wrote:There was no reason to enter the house alone. You should avoid the conflict if possible and contact the police. Only pull you gun if you have fear of death or physical harm. Stay outside the house and watch for activity. If the thief is not causing you physical harm or threatening your life you would have a heck of a legal bill and a hard time in the grand jury. CHL is only for threats to you own personal safety let the color tv go.

You must unaware of the Castle Doctrine.

Search it, there is some valuable information in it.

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