I'm not so sure that the retired LEO's exclamation "I will kill you" if you move...was the best thing (I think he did this more than once).
I have no doubt...it sent the "strongest" message to the BG, but if that had been overheard by a bystander...and the case went to court (in the event of an actual shooting), this might work against the former officer.
I think the warning "I will shoot" would be more appropriate.
I have noticed in quite a few incidences presented on various television shows...officers pointing their guns and proclaiming the same thing "I will KILL YOU" (generally followed by an expletive or two).
Other than that....I think all in all, he did pretty well. He had his hands full keeping the robbers proned out and covered. He knew he was vulnerable to attack if any other BG's were involved and nearby. His ability to "be aware of his surroundings" at that point was severely compromised by his immediate need to watch the two he had. He later alluded...that he got a good taste of what it is like to be waiting on the police to arrive.
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- Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:44 pm
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Re: BG's Attempt Robbery of Retired LEO
seamusTX wrote:I have some comments, with the caveat that this is a second-hand account and may not be entirely accurate.The only opportunity to abort the robbery was the few seconds between making eye contact and the criminals getting within handshake distance.Then he sees two adult black males emerge from some bushes about 10 feet away. They had been trailing suit man but Buddy saw them and made eye contact and they immediately advanced on him....
Bandanna Boy and Turtle boy advance on buddy and stop within 3 feet of him.
Without a sketch of the scene, we can't know if there was anything Buddy could do in the way of evasion or getting to cover.This was a courageous move, and it worked in this case. However, he could just as well have been shot if the robber had a real weapon.Buddy starts pulling his cell and more or less argues with bandanna boy about it being his work cell (it is). All the while raising his arms in exasperation and dropping them and shuffling his feet.
A murder trial just concluded in Galveston. Three teenagers armed with a revolver tried to rob a game room. The manager of the game room told him to go away, and the armed robber shot him. Inexperienced robbers can be very jumpy or just vicious.I'd like to see video of that. We are often told that it is difficult to draw from an ankle holster.Buddy squats down and smoothly draws his revolver and rises ...
I wonder if he will switch to another carry method.
- Jim
We are often told that drawing from a shoulder holster is "slow" too.
Ankle carry (like shoulder carry) may not be the ideal method for all situations. However, depending upon the equipment (holster/gun) and the person behind it (practiced/experienced)...I can easily see a smooth and fairly quick presentation.
The retired LEO first created a diversion that bought him the time he knew he needed, so he did well IMO.