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by flintknapper
Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Fiesta Mart improperly signed
Replies: 10
Views: 2673

Re: Fiesta Mart improperly signed

Well, what if someone hasn't posted any sort of sign? Sure, they might be pro-gun, or they might not care, but have you considered that they might not know about the 30.06 or 30.07 laws at all?
I have considered that very thing, and others. In fact, that IS the case in some situations (might not know about the signs). Other times it might be the result of not caring or actually being pro-gun. We don't know (or care) the reasons a business DOESN'T post, unless you receive 'effective notice' upon entering. That is not the subject of this thread (Improper Signage).

Following your logic, if you don't see any sort of sign posted somewhere, you should inform the proprietor of the 30.06 and 30.07 laws, so that they can make an "informed and lawfully binding decision which route to take."
Please Sir, that is quite a stretch from what I wrote. In no way am I advocating we go around and 'promote' putting up signs where NONE exist. Nor have I suggested we take any 'polls' or visit every business and evangelize Open or Concealed Carry.

But I do believe in being above the board and honest in all dealings, not just taking advantage of what suits me, that is the "logic" and principle involved.

I also think that NOW is the time to address any issues or concerns that businesses have and IF we have an opportunity to do so (in a respectful manner) that it will bode well for us. Discourse is the solution. Not 'hiding' from it, whether CC or OC.
by flintknapper
Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Fiesta Mart improperly signed
Replies: 10
Views: 2673

Re: Fiesta Mart improperly signed

Scott Farkus wrote:
CleverNickname wrote:
tommyg wrote:The Fiesta mart at 135 & 38th st is not properly marked they have a valid 3007 sign and
a red sign similar to a 51% sign. The 51% sign is not properly worded. I told the manager about it
If a sign is incorrect, and you tell someone about it, what are the logical outcomes?

1) They fix the sign. Congratulations, carry is now banned there. Is this really what you intended to happen?
2) They don't fix the sign. Nothing changes, except you don't get to show off your knowledge of Texas firearms law to the proprietor.

Notice that neither of those is a positive outcome.

If you see an invalid sign, don't bother to correct them, you're not doing us a favor.
This. Why in the world would you tell a business that their sign is invalid? :banghead:
You tell them....so they can make an 'informed' and lawfully binding decision which route to take, as is their prerogative.

What doesn't do us any 'favors' is flying under the radar because we can (for the time being). We need to be honest and respectful in our dealings with businesses. Omission, doesn't meet that standard...IMO.

This whole sign posting thing....NEEDS to reach a head and then we can deal with whatever has been fleshed out.

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