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Grayling813 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:03 pm Also at the NRA Personal Protection Expo, Paul Howe said we should stop using the left's terminology of "active shooter," instead using "active mass killer".

Fortunately his facility is right here in my neighborhood and the PD here (Swat Team) get a lot of their training there.

hondo44 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:05 pm

flintknapper wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:27 pm

narcissist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:50 pm

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:12 pm Hypothetical question:

You, your SO and maybe your spawn, are in your neighborhood Walmart on a Saturday afternoon looking for bird feed, kitty litter, and some snackers, mixers, etc. Suddenly, you hear what you perceive to be gunshots! You are legally carrying your fully loaded, cocked and locked .45 cal louden boomer.

What do you do?

Even though they changed their rules on open carry I would still try to find the attacker, while telling my family to leave to the vehicle and leave to saftey. In no way shape or form am I trying to be a :Hero" just trying to do what's right in my eyes. Mainly if it's a mass idiot shooter, END the threat!!!

For those who responded they would run toward the gunfire or otherwise seek out an Active Shooter, just be aware that these days there is VERY heightened pressure for officers to 'respond' as quickly as is possible (engage shooter).

ANYONE with a drawn weapon is going to be putting themselves in a potentially bad situation, depending on the LEO's level of training and ability to control their nerves.

A responding officer may NOT have any information about the active shooter(s).

May not have a description, may not know the number of shooters or the weapon involved. Good way to get yourself shot if you are perceived to be a threat in any way, shape or form.

But I leave it up to you and circumstance. Just think it over...

except for the fact that a cop has NEVER shot a good guy with a gun in a mass shooting situation. It just doesn't happen.

You mean it hasn't happened yet.

The reason for this of course is that Mass Shootings/Active Shooter incidents themselves are fairly rare and tend to go down quickly. LEO are simply NOT there yet when/if an armed citizen has intervened. There is only ONE such example I can even think of (citizen firing upon Active Shooter).

LEO unfortunately DO shoot a good number of people with cell phones in their hands, nothing in their hands or folks that make what is perceived to be a furtive 'move'. This can and does happen in other stressful situations. I would not envy LEO having to quickly determine WHO the bad guy is...when/if more than one person is wielding a weapon (whether shooting it at the time or not) in the course of an active shooting.

Not 'Cop Bashing' here, they have no greater supporter. Just saying this type of thing (citizen engaging shooter as the cops roll up) is ripe for a tragedy.

narcissist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:50 pm

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:12 pm Hypothetical question:

You, your SO and maybe your spawn, are in your neighborhood Walmart on a Saturday afternoon looking for bird feed, kitty litter, and some snackers, mixers, etc. Suddenly, you hear what you perceive to be gunshots! You are legally carrying your fully loaded, cocked and locked .45 cal louden boomer.

What do you do?

Even though they changed their rules on open carry I would still try to find the attacker, while telling my family to leave to the vehicle and leave to saftey. In no way shape or form am I trying to be a :Hero" just trying to do what's right in my eyes. Mainly if it's a mass idiot shooter, END the threat!!!

For those who responded they would run toward the gunfire or otherwise seek out an Active Shooter, just be aware that these days there is VERY heightened pressure for officers to 'respond' as quickly as is possible (engage shooter).

ANYONE with a drawn weapon is going to be putting themselves in a potentially bad situation, depending on the LEO's level of training and ability to control their nerves.

A responding officer may NOT have any information about the active shooter(s).

May not have a description, may not know the number of shooters or the weapon involved. Good way to get yourself shot if you are perceived to be a threat in any way, shape or form.

But I leave it up to you and circumstance. Just think it over...