Lucky45 wrote:Big Calhoun wrote:Seeing how he walked to the back and took a seat, I would have felt comfortable just keeping on eye on him so I could point him out to the police.
That is fine. But if this guy thought it was fit to shoot someone after they brushed up against each other. I wonder what would his demeanor when you start reckless eyeballing him. Would you guys then exchange words also?
PC §9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b),
a person is justified in using force against another when and to the
degree he reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to
protect himself against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful
force.
Would this apply since he already used deadly force and you have no idea of his intentions or mental state while your ears are ringing from the gun shot in an enclosed bus.
I know some people in here try to act as though they could sit there like nothing happened and a dead body is a few feet from them. But the human body is wired for SELF preservation. A gun shot going off in close proximity will make the adrenalin flow. If you don't have adrenalin, it might be because you replaced it with Ridillin.
PC §9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person
is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under
Section 9.31;
Think we got that.
(2) if a reasonable person in the actor's situation would not have
retreated; and
I think they is no safe way to exit a moving bus which is crowded. Either kick down Granny to get to the door, or jump through the window into oncoming traffic.
(3) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly
force is immediately necessary:
Don't know if I'm next so bet your dollar it is immediately necessary.
(A) to protect himself against the other's use or attempted use
of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated
kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault,
robbery, or aggravated robbery.
Think the guy already demonstrated that he will use deadly force. Do you asked him if he is finished shooting so you can sit in peace?
The only grey area would be the draw because you would have to seen and heard the entire confrontation. Because if the suspect shot the victim just on verbal provocation then I would be very concerned about being in his zone. Who knows if he included "TALL PEOPLE" in argument with the victim?
Now if the victim pulled a weapon and they both drew on each other, then that would be a different story.
