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PatrickS

NcongruNt wrote:
patrickstickler wrote:
NcongruNt wrote:Here's a couple of photos of my pistol safe as mounted under my front seat. Please excuse the trash... I had no idea it was that messy in there.

Is that a pushbutton combination box? One of those types
with 4 buttons, one for each finger?
Yessir. Here's the picture from the manufacturer's website:

...

On mine, the buttons face down, making it easy to reach down under the seat to open it and slip the pistol in/out of it.

Perfect. I've been looking at similar approaches, but mechanical
versions, but putting it under the seat like that (if it would fit)
looks like a good way to go.

PatrickS

NcongruNt wrote:Here's a couple of photos of my pistol safe as mounted under my front seat. Please excuse the trash... I had no idea it was that messy in there.

Is that a pushbutton combination box? One of those types
with 4 buttons, one for each finger?

PatrickS

KaProw wrote:
patrickstickler wrote: How soft is the interior? Is the gun necessary?

And how does the bag close shut? It looks like it uses a draw
string effect, but it's not clear to me how it is locked tight.
It's kinda like a canvas bag on the inside. It's not plush, but not abbrasive. I use a rug like the picture shows, but it probably isn't nessecary.

the cable has big brass thing/wedge/knot in it. the knot pulls though the end of the cable and can't be pulled back through when the lock is on. I usually cable it around the seat track, spare tire or trunk hinge. they have one that says "NRA" on it too. (if you don't want "beretta" on it) I think they make one for rifles and shotguns too.

c'ya
rick

Sounds promising. I wonder if the bag is sufficiently thick
to function as a trigger guard, or whether it's really just
theft protection for an unloaded gun.

PatrickS

propellerhead wrote:I think I would rather just hide the pistol. Like under the seat but attached to the seat so it's off the floor.

I'm sure that's fine if you don't have kids. For those of us who do, though,
having something to lock the gun in is essential.

PatrickS

KaProw wrote:I use one of these. I swapped the lock for small combination lock though

Interesting. I wonder if that would satisfy the TSA, if inside
another suitcase.

I like the fact that you can use any padlock, so this would work great
with my preferred blind/in-the-dark padlocks, too. E.g.

http://www.hearmore.com/store/prodView. ... ok_Padlock
http://secure.nfb.org/ecommerce/asp/pro ... or=&PT_ID=

How soft is the interior? Is the gun rug necessary?

And how does the bag close shut? It looks like it uses a draw
string effect, but it's not clear to me how it is locked tight.

PatrickS

stevie_d_64 wrote:
patrickstickler wrote:
stevie_d_64 wrote:
Cosmo 9 wrote:Check these out.

http://www.center-of-mass.com
Totally, totally agree!!!
I like the COM boxes alot and hear good things about them, and
recently exchanged emails with the COM folks about a version
with a pushbutton (blind/in-the-dark) combination lock rather
than a key lock, but I don't think anything will be forthcoming.

I have a pretty strong aversion to gun storage where keys are
involved. It's just trading one problem for another (where do I
put my gun so it's safe, vs. where do I put this key so it's safe)
and I'd hate to have to need to get at my gun and for whatever
reason, not have quick access to the key.

I presently use pistol cases with pushbutton padlocks designed
for use by blind people, which can be opened by feel alone, e.g.
middle of the night, don't want to either attract attention by
turning on a light nor take your eyes off someone/some area,
etc.

I've been trying to figure out how to put one of the following
in my Jeep. Both have the benefit of not relying on
any batteries, etc. and as long as you're memory is OK, you
will always have the key handy and out of the hands of others
(kids, or anyone who gets ahold of your car keys, etc.).

http://www.lock-depot.com/Scripts/prodV ... roduct=215
http://www.smartlock.com/triggerlock-r.htm

If you're cool with keys, though, the COM products look great.
I would say that this method, like some others, are not totally fool-proof...

They are though somewhat of a slow-down to your average "smash-and-grabber" thief...And thats about it...

If the vehicle is stolen, well then thats not much of a comfort...Regardless of what you have in the vehicle...

I would point out that this particular system is flexible enough to be used not only in your vehicle, but the safes are airline and TSA rated as acceptable to secure these items for flight in your check in baggage...They don't take up a lot of room in your baggage, and can be secured in your room if you can find a suitable part if the structure to loop the cable that comes with the safe to that...

Just some additional things to think about...

Certainly, and that's why I'd love to see a fusion of the COM box
with the pushbutton lock.

Of course, everyone has their own list of requirements that
are prioritized differently.

For me, a blind/in-the-dark combination lock is more of a
requirement than travel (TSA/hotel room) use.

Since the use case originally presented was exactly the same as
that which I have, I thought I'd present the above alternatives.

Cheers.

PatrickS

stevie_d_64 wrote:
Cosmo 9 wrote:Check these out.

http://www.center-of-mass.com
Totally, totally agree!!!

I like the COM boxes alot and hear good things about them, and
recently exchanged emails with the COM folks about a version
with a pushbutton (blind/in-the-dark) combination lock rather
than a key lock, but I don't think anything will be forthcoming.

I have a pretty strong aversion to gun storage where keys are
involved. It's just trading one problem for another (where do I
put my gun so it's safe, vs. where do I put this key so it's safe)
and I'd hate to have to need to get at my gun and for whatever
reason, not have quick access to the key.

I presently use pistol cases with pushbutton padlocks designed
for use by blind people, which can be opened by feel alone, e.g.
middle of the night, don't want to either attract attention by
turning on a light nor take your eyes off someone/some area,
etc.

I've been trying to figure out how to put one of the following
in my Jeep. Both have the benefit of not relying on
any batteries, etc. and as long as you're memory is OK, you
will always have the key handy and out of the hands of others
(kids, or anyone who gets ahold of your car keys, etc.).

http://www.lock-depot.com/Scripts/prodV ... roduct=215
http://www.smartlock.com/triggerlock-r.htm

If you're cool with keys, though, the COM products look great.

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