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Charles L. Cotton wrote: If there is sufficient interest, I'll try to schedule another one in the near future. As always, location is a problem with so many of our members living all over the State, but I can do one at PSC and perhaps in another location or two. I don't know the first thing about video conferencing, but perhaps that would be an option as well.

Chas.

I'd be very interested in something like this. This thread really woke me up to the differences in interperetation to the laws.
FYI, There are Kinkos locations in Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio that do Videoconferincing if thats an avenue you'd want to take. It's expensive, around 200 bucks an hour per location if I remember correctly.

Amazing.

I never realised the interpretation that you spoke of, as each incident being "different" (the running off the road, then the afterwards). Amazing the things you learn. I'm thankful for a forum like this where I can talk about my experiences, and read everyone elses, and hopefully not make a costly life altering mistake.

Anyone ever tried to call the police on someone that's road raged them, or even for some road rage that you see on the highway that doesn't even involve you? Ever get the police to do something about it?

Part of me thinks that Road Ragers know that they can get away with this stuff with impunity, and that's why they do it.

one eyed fatman wrote:

am with Flintknapper here.........a person threatening you with non-deadly force does not justify you to use deadly force, and in most cases would not justify threatening to use deadly force as per TPC 9.04.

And what is non-deadly force? Do I dig out and start reading my book of rules while being threatened or hit in the face? If someone gets out of their car and says I'm going to kill you is that non-deadly force? Face it, if you get into a situation your going to have to figure out on your own if it's non-deadly force or not. Good luck to everyone of us on that one.

That was kind of my point. I see what TXinvestigator is saying; it could look bad. As this took place in Plano, my chances would be worse than in other places grand-jury wise.

But honestly, if someone tries to run me off the road, I consider that deadly force. I'm not sure what the law, a judge, or jury would consider it.
Had I been alone, I probably would not be in "pappa bear" mode, and not be as protective as I am when my fianceé is around.

I see where you're coming from. I at the time viewed someone trying to run me off the road as trying to kill me. Someone making an aggressive move after already trying to kill me in my eyes is a threat, especially where my futire wife is concerned.

As far as retreating, there doesn't seem to be a lot of places I can retreat to on the median of a busy freeway, especially if my car is disabled, and especially if I am injured, or my fianceé is.

Just describing what was going through my mind at the time. I appreciate teh warning, though.

2 days before I got my CHL, I was almost run off the road by someone. My fianceé and I were driving to dinner, when in the left lane on George Bush Turnpike, doing 80. He wanted to go a lot faster. He was tailgaiting me, about 4-6 inches from my bumper. Considering the traffic to the right of me was going much slower, I didn't feel the need to move over. (I'm an ass like that I guess.)

Well, he sees an opening, guns it and pulls into my lane. I honk, and he veers suddenly. I slam on the accellerator, and manage to get away via the breakdown lane.

Had he run me off the road, I probably would have jumped out of my car and drawn on him. If he had gotten out of his car at all, and made any agressive move at all, i'd have put 2 center mass and one in the head without even a thought.

I'm glad It didn't come to that. The Bob Bondurant School of High Performance Driving class I took a few years ago really came in handy.
It's training I think everyone should take. It saved my life, and possibly the guy in the truck's life as well.