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LCP_Dogg wrote:First off, good for you - thank you for doing that and stepping up!

txfour wrote:He stated that the 51% and no carry for a CHL was ridiculous to begin with.

I can't believe he said this - Anyways, I don't know where I lie with this. Part of me likes this law because it prevents reckless CHL holders from getting wasted and potentially discharging their firearm (on purpose or not).

However, I also dislike the fact that if a CHL holder goes into an establishment like this, unarmed, then the trip to/from the vehicle, the time to dis/re-arm, etc, all adds up to quite a bit of time being more "vulnerable", especially since you could possibly accidentally brandish said firearm while attempting to secure/store it in said vehicle.

I guess that is why I avoid these places now. I'm still on the fence of whether I like the 51% or not, but either way, I try to avoid it at all costs.

I think what he meant by the comment was that we, as CHL holders, know the limitations on alcohol and would not jeopardize out status for a beer or two as he stated that CHLer's were typically of the highest law abiding citizens.

I would imagine the 51% law was created purely to offset temptation to drink and carry a firearm. I dislike it for one reason, in my opinion, you are are more likely to be in a dangerous situation at a bar (and that may be why it was written too - to keep you out of harms way) than many other places you will go. I'm like you. I just avoid the places all together.

I called the local TABC office to report a store that I felt displayed a non-compliant Red 51% sign.

The store I have issue with sells for on and off premise consumption, however, there is no way possible that 51% of her sales come from on premise consumption. The gentleman I had on the phone was very cordial and wanting to help. He even had his boss on the other line and I heard him run through what I had just told him to get a second opinion. He, knowing the store, and the owner, agreed with me that she does not sell 51% for on premise consumption.

This is a relatively new store that got their TABC license in Feb of this year. He felt that Austin saw the license request, assumed it was a bar, and sent the Red 51% sign. He will try and get it removed soon, but said in Feb of 09 they will have to renew and report actual sales which will also take care of it.

He went on to say that he assumed I was a CHL and that was why I was reporting it which I did not confirm nor deny. He stated that the 51% and no carry for a CHL was ridiculous to begin with.

All in all, good experience speaking with him.