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by fickman
Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:31 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: My friend was mugged
Replies: 48
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Re: My friend was mugged

Two coworkers were mugged just off the strip in Las Vegas. Neither had a firearm.

Here are some details that differ from the OP's situation and theirs:
- The mugger was alone
- The mugger stayed about 5 feet away
- When coworker A threw his wallet on the ground, the mugger made them step back a few steps with their hands over their head. He glanced at the wallet to be sure of its location for less than a second. He watched them and kept his gun trained on them as he picked up the wallet.
- The mugger then forced them both to turn their pockets inside out and to raise their shirts and reveal their waistline, presumably looking for firearms.
- The mugger told them to turn around and walk the other way. They complied for about 20 feet, then reversed and continued on their original trajectory. The mugger was already across the street but fired a round into the air before disappearing into some apartment complexes.

The police actually discouraged them from filing a report by asking, "Are you really going to fly back out here to be a witness in the trial, assuming we even find the guy?"

The mugger got about $40.

BTW: the discussion of using force for personal property has NOTHING to do with this discussion. Robbery and burglary are different crimes. Robbery - especially aggravated robbery (which includes using a weapon or the threat of a weapon) is a crime against a person. Your life is being threatened. Self defense through lethal force is justified.

I'd consider tossing the wallet beyond the BG and running away. Get around a corner or behind something and draw in case he pursues. The majority of the time he'll go for the money, especially if you make a lot of noise. Even if he shoot at you - if you can put any significant distance, any hit would be on accident more than purpose. Run diagonally away. (This is harder to coordinate if you're with others.)

If I didn't do the toss-and-run, I'd seriously consider any opportunity to draw and fire. Most likely his partners are going to flee to save themselves. . . they don't exactly follow Army Ranger code about leaving a fallen soldier. This assumes I'm carrying IWB.

If I'm with a BUG only (ankle, pocket, backpack, etc.) - I'm tossing-and-running or complying.

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