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by dewayneward
Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would it have been justified?
Replies: 77
Views: 10478

Re: Would it have been justified?

dewayneward wrote:
I like the idea of a true confessions outside of the "never again" forum.


warning...i've got some doozies ....like that one time in high school that i...never mind
As long as it involves guns, I am good :rolll :rolll :rolll

course, now I am curious, ha ha!!
by dewayneward
Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would it have been justified?
Replies: 77
Views: 10478

Re: Would it have been justified?

I like the idea of a true confessions outside of the "never again" forum.

I read over Howdy's "confession" and I woulda done the exact same thing he did. Actually, if I saw my spouses hatchback open, it could have been that she was taking groceries in, who knows. My biggest beef was for the poster that said that taking the gun out of the holster was premature. Now, we later learned that this wasnt a "holstered" gun, but if there is a perceived threat (and in this case they were multiple threats), my hipoint will be unholstered and pointed down to the ground or at the very least my hand will be on it. I do agree, however, that it would have been better to stay in the house, but I would have done a mental of check of where my family was (if they were outside, then I am going outside).

Good story, hope to hear more of them.
by dewayneward
Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:55 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would it have been justified?
Replies: 77
Views: 10478

Re: Would it have been justified?

btw-my hundredth post!!!
Besides, no one complained. People being what they are, it's possible that no one except the three individuals involved knew what was happening.
Yet another reason to be armed. People are either 1) wrapped up in the own little world or 2) they dont want to be bothered or get involved. This all reinforces the fact that you are on your own to protect yourself. Gone are the days of the white night saving the damsel in distress or thinking "he wouldnt dare try to hurt me, there are people around us".

I dont know if the OP mentioned it, but he didnt have the gun drawn and IN the bad guy's face. I am envisioning that he had it drawn and at his side or pointed towards the ground. I'll have to reread the account to make sure.

I really dont like the ide of waiting to draw until there is immediate danger. By then its too late. Mind you, I am not saying that we should be pointing down every person on the street or greeting every person at the door with the business end of a shotgun (ok, maybe the sales people), but when the ole spidey sense goes off its time to pull.

Say I am walking down the street and some folks switch directions or take action that doesnt appear normal and start walking towards me. I'll first try to do something to confirm their intent (start walking another direction and see if they trek with me) and if they fail that test then thats all she wrote.
by dewayneward
Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would it have been justified?
Replies: 77
Views: 10478

Re: Would it have been justified?

dewayneward wrote:
I just cant imagine ANYONE not soiling themselves when looking down the barrel of a gun ...

Some people can do it without flinching or hesitating. You can find countless stories of people who charged cops, sometimes multiple cops, when any rational person would have known he would be shot.

I can't get inside their heads, either; but there are plenty of them out there.

There are also thieves who literally think they own what they're stealing, and they will kill to keep it.

- Jim
And those are the people that make me not trust ANYONE and increase the liklihood of me shooting them early on in a confrontation. Its sad really, because your fate for doing it will be decided by 12 people in a nice air conditioned court room while the family of the fallen misunderstood kid is bawling. I have been repeatedly taught that people would rather kill you than talk to you and you just cant trust anyone of them. your guard has to be up 24/7. The OP showed considerable restraint. I would have had my gun drawn and if there was ANY indication that it was gonna go south, I would have stopped the threat.

Ok, I am rambling here.....its just the idea of charging someone with a gun or something like that is crazy. They are the reason why I am armed 24/7.
by dewayneward
Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:23 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Would it have been justified?
Replies: 77
Views: 10478

Re: Would it have been justified?

First, thank you for making this post. I like to hear (and send to my other CHL pro/against buddies) these events. As you see other scenarios, it makes you think "what would I do".

I think you handled it perfectly. Hopefully that kid decides to turn his life around after that moment. The thing that concerns me was the original poster's comment about not appearing worried/concerned.

I remember when I was a kid, I accidentally drove down a private road (a serious accidentally not a kid version of accident) and the owner (I assume) got out of his car and told me to turn around. I got out and started acting tough and explaining to him exactly what I was going to do if he didnt move his car off the one way road. That was when I saw a flashlight and a gun. I dont recall what the guy said, but I was spread eagled on the hood of my car pleading with the guy not to shoot me. My friend in the car had saucer sized eyes looking at me and the guy with the gun.

I just cant imagine ANYONE not soiling themselves when looking down the barrel of a gun (possibly if it was a REAL small gun or something). Did it look like the guy was mulling over whether to do something or was it like "yea, whatever, I get a gun pulled on me every Tuesday, twice on Sunday".

The guy at a gas station that was "asking" me for money had a "mulling it over" look when I told him that I cant help him. Thankfully, he decided to leave.

Anyway, think you did a great job in handling yourself.

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