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by Fangs
Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:57 pm
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Topic: Death Threats
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Re: Death Threats

Alright well, interesting turn of events.

The marine called me. He apologized for over reacting and saying things he didn't mean. He admitted he was just mad at himself because the girl dumped him after he cheated on her. He's also getting back with an ex of his that he was with for 3 or 4 years before this girl that was my gf.

The murderer is leaving for OK today since he was only in town for business for a couple weeks. I'd heard him say something like this before but didn't know how serious he was about it. My ex room mate's (we're on good terms) driving him to the airport so I don't have a reason to doubt this claim.

I had been avoiding all places / circumstances that would leave me unarmed since I brought up this topic, and it seems like I can relax a bit. Although I'll still stay on my toes for the duration of the marine's visit, I'm no longer planning on moving to a friend's house out of town for a bit.

The girl begged and pleaded me to not break up with her and when faced with it as a real possibility she grew a spine and ditched the friends and told the marine to back off. She told me how I was the perfect guy and all she ever wanted... how she won't ever find someone else like me. Then I dumped her. :nopity

Thanks all for the advice and concern and prayers. Andy, if you still want to visit sometime, feel free. :thumbs2:

Anyone think I'm taking this too lightly still? The hardcore paranoia has faded a bit, should it not?
by Fangs
Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:39 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Death Threats
Replies: 51
Views: 7049

Re: Death Threats

Sorry for the amount of time since my last reply, it was a busy weekend. Let me address some general points, some specific replies, and then the exciting new chapter of this saga. :roll:

The girl is 21. I'm 22. I think the Marine might be 19 now. He's 18 or 19.

I agree that I may have come across as overconfident when talking about actually getting in a physical confrontation with this guy. You guys bring up excellent points and I agree that I should not underestimate him. He hasn't been in any real firefights, but neither have I, and that doesn't mean he isn't trained to be. I'm mainly saying that I'm a lot more able to deal with such a situation now than I have been at other times in my life. Like last summer, which I spent on crutches.

I posted the pic on my Facebook and tagged her, making it available for all of her friends to see. He's one of her Facebook friends, so he can see it. That in and of itself doesn't bother me, since I'm still good friends with several of my ex's as well. I also don't have my fb set to private because I've never really had a reason to. So the only information she provided him was fb showing him the pic I tagged her in. I hadn't asked her for his info yet, but did while she was in town and she freely gave it.

With her being out of town til the weekend, and us not being able to come to a quick and easy agreement over the police report thing, we decided to talk about it in person instead of arguing over the phone. So it's not like there were any discussions where she refused to tell me anything between my first and second posts. However, when I asked if she'd go with me to file the report she said no. When I asked if she'd be mad at me if I went and filed it alone she said yes. At that point the decision was made for me to not stick this thing out. Her reasoning, again, was that it could "get him in trouble" and "might make him mad". You guys are right, she doesn't get that this is the result of his actions, and it's not my or her job to protect him from them. Unfortunately we had this discussion right before she was about to head back to Houston for the next two weeks and I didn't have the heart to dump her before she spent 3 hours on the road. I've seen what something like that can do to a girl and I chose to not do it right before she was going to be operating heavy machinery.

stevie_d_64 - As far as notifying his superiors in the military, I don't think I have all the info I need yet. At this point all I have is his first and last name, and the town he's from. I Didn't even mention this to the girl because if she freaked on the police report I know she's not going to go with this. I know she has one of his dog tags in her car somewhere but I didn't get a chance to find it and snag a pic of it. I'll probably try to do this when I go visit her in Houston. Any more advice on how to do this is greatly appreciated.

AndyC - I have plenty of couch space. Couches I don't mind sleeping on if you really wanted to come visit and sleep on a bed. IIRC, you lived in South Africa for a time, and my family and I are from there. So all in all you might really enjoy the trip. Though I'm not sure exactly what you were intending, I took it as a personal guard offer. Feel free to elaborate.

Oldgringo - I realize you and I look at the world in two very different ways. Although I like my way better, your perspective is still enlightening and appreciated. Please don't take this as sarcasm, I mean it sincerely. I think you especially will get a kick out of the next part:

And now for the rest of the story...
As if all the above isn't enough.

So she's been hanging out with a group of friends for the past month or so. Included in this group is a 36-year-old guy she and my ex-room mate met one night at a bar. He was buying everybody drinks, and in exchange they drove him home at the end of the night. Since then he became part of the group and I've hung out with them semi-regularly. Mostly out drinking but also tubing, and other things. Well, the night we were having the good-bye party for my gf since she was going to be in Houston for a couple weeks, the 36-year-old guy said something along the lines of, "I love this girl, if you ever hurt her I'll kill you." I thought nothing of it, like I said, it's a common threat and I've heard it before. I told him something like, "That's fine, I don't mistreat women." He then looked me in the eye, said, "No you don't understand," and repeated it. I figured he was drunk and feeling protective and all that stupid stuff. Well, come to find out, this weekend he told my gf that he went to jail for a few years for a murder charge. :eek6
Then when I couldn't make it in time to see the fireworks with her (while she was hanging out with this group of friends) due to a legitimate emergency, he told her, "I have to leave to go smoke pot before your bf (me) gets there otherwise I'll kill him (me)."

This made the ditching her decision that much easier. I'm thinking a police report's in order for it as well. Unlike the marine, this guy's bigger and stronger than I am. Even though she and I talked about it and she understood why I couldn't make it and got over it, he's still mad about it based on what he's been telling my ex-room mate. I think this relationship very easily fits into one of the top 3 worst decisions of my life. :banghead:

Just curious, does anyone think me breaking up with her is going to make the marine less likely to follow through on the threat?
How about the older gentleman? I think it might make it worse, though that isn't going to change my decision.
by Fangs
Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:54 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Death Threats
Replies: 51
Views: 7049

Re: Death Threats

Yeah you guys are right. The more I think about it, the more I realize how not worth it this relationship is.

Hos - I never planned on sitting down and having a heart to heart with the guy.

Oldgringo - I technically have an older step brother, three older step sisters, an older sister, three younger brothers, and a younger half-brother. Although I doubt I would have said anything about being raised by 4 sisters because they step sisters never lived with me. :confused5
I forgave the guy and moved on. Leaving vengeance to the Lord, partially out of the kindness of my heart, partially because I couldn't track him down after the fact. Did I mention that I got a new phone for free? :thumbs2:

Wildbill - I'm guessing you're saying that I should just kick her to the curb no mercy style and move on? While I don't think that's a bad plan, I've never been one to brutal with other's emotions when a soft but firm approach will get the job done... and I still need info on the guy out of her. Also, I didn't expect her to be entirely over him in this short of a time frame. I know that stuff can take some time. Though I do agree that if she'd rather protect him than me, then I need to get out.

Thanks everyone for the advice and prayers.
by Fangs
Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:21 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Death Threats
Replies: 51
Views: 7049

Re: Death Threats

I appreciate everyone's comments so far. Don't worry about offending me, it's pretty hard to do. I asked for opinions and advice, and that's what I want. :thumbs2:

I'm not sure I'd have a chance of getting to his CO, unless the gf cooperates. As it is, I don't even know his last name. The fact that she balked at the police report makes me think it's a snowball's chance that I'd get enough info to get in touch with his CO, but I'll try.

She agreed to "talk about it" as far as the police report goes when she gets back into town tomorrow, so I'll see how that goes. I'll be filing it with or without her support with as much info as I can gather anyway.

I was the first to wonder if this is worth the hassle. Although she said she talked to him and he said he wouldn't hurt me ( :lol:: ) because it would hurt her, but he "wants to talk to me" to "make sure I'll treat her right". Whatever that means. :roll:

I just hope she hasn't told him that I carry or have guns in the house to "convince him not to attack" me... the only thing I see that doing is causing him to up his firepower before he gets here. :banghead:
by Fangs
Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:48 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Death Threats
Replies: 51
Views: 7049

Death Threats

It seems that I have unwittingly gotten myself into a bit of a situation, and I can't think of any group of people better suited to give me advice on how to handle it than yall.

My girlfriend of a couple months has an ex-fiance. That I knew. What I didn't know is just how recently they broke things off. Turns out it was right before she and I met. Also come to find out that he's not quite over her yet, and he blames me for them not working things out and getting back together when he returns from being stationed overseas with the USMC. To top it off, I'd posted a picture of her cuddling with my dog on Facebook, and he saw it, called her, and proceeded to freak out. During this freaking out he repeated several times that he was going to kill me. He also told her he knew my home address and read it to her.

Due to a failed business venture I'm currently living back at home with my mother and 4 little brothers, at the address he has.

The last thing I want to be forced to do is shoot someone serving in the armed forces.

I'm going to fill out a police report, so if anything happens I have a record to help in my defense. The guy's going to be in Texas for a month, staying 4 hours away from where I live. If he shows up here, then he's had several hours of driving to mull over his actions, it wouldn't be a spur of the moment thing. The gf balked when I told her that she's coming with me to file the report. She "doesn't want to get him in trouble" or "make a big deal out of it", and "it's not his fault, he was just mad" (Yeah, like he can never get mad again :roll: ). I'm under the impression that just having a report on file won't get him in trouble, but will cover my butt if it turns into a deadly force scenario.

I've been locking up my firearms due to having the younger brothers around. I'm taking to carrying my handgun on me at all times at the house again. I'd still feel better if my 12 gauge or SKS were readily available. :grumble

I asked the gf how she thinks he'd attempt to kill me if it came down to it, she said bare hands or knife. Excellent. Last thing I need is someone firing at me with the house and my family behind me. :shock:

Normally I would just laugh something like this off. It's not the first time that I've had someone threaten to kill me over a girl. Nothing's ever come of it, but then again, no one's ever gone through the trouble of looking up my address (which isn't easy to find on google or some of the other people searching sites that I checked, so he put in some effort). Also, I can just see his side of the story, as told to his friends, the police, anyone: This guy was messing around with my fiance! Blah blah blah. I can totally understand how the guy must feel, I've been there. I was in a 3 year relationship, thought I was going to marry the girl, and then she cheated on me and ran of with some other guy. It took me longer to get over her than the time actually spent in the relationship. The guy's 18, and has a history of being not physically abusive, but yelling / throwing fits / hitting walls when he was with my gf.

There are enough red flags here for me to take it seriously, any advice would be appreciated.

Oh, I've sparred with Marines before, and know I can handle myself in a physical confrontation. I'd just prefer to never let it get there.

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