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RiverCity.45 wrote:A store wanting to check a receipt to prevent shoplifting is a violation of civil liberties? Hogwash. If you don't want your receipt checked, shop somewhere else.

RoyGBiv wrote:Are you talking about "receipt checking"? I suppose I'm a bit off topic, specifically referring to "shoplifting"...
If a merchant thinks you've stolen something (for example, maybe your odd movements to keep your weapon concealed while shopping for clothing at Kohl's caused the in-store security folks to believe that you had stolen something) I don't think they will be so casual about allowing you to walk past..

RoyGBiv wrote:I doubt that ignoring their shoplifting accusation would lead to deescalation.

RoyGBiv wrote:So.. what's the best was to deescalate a shoplifting accusation from a shopkeeper while carrying?..

I'm certainly not going to stand for anyone putting hands on me and no way am I "going to the security office" if I haven't stolen anything..

If a shopkeeper believed I had stolen something, I suppose I'd not complain too much about them searching my bag, if they were polite and professional about it. But being asked to search my person, especially when CHL... Recipe for a headache.

Any of you store security folks have a suggestion on how to handle this?

I suppose I'd refuse the body search and refuse the walk to the security office, but very politely offer to wait for an officer to show up as if it doesn't bother me. But no way am I going to be put in cuffs and/or "taken" anywhere without resisting.

Where's the line here?
How's best to deescalate?

austinrealtor wrote:

jordanmills wrote:

austinrealtor wrote:

McKnife wrote: What harm comes from allowing police to search you vehicle/property? They are just doing their jobs.

That's a heck of a leap from showing a receipt to searching vehicle/property. I would NEVER allow a retail store to "search" me. But if they're just checking my receipt against the items in THEIR shopping cart, I don't really see the problem either. If they DID try to stop/detain me, we'd have a BIG problem. But just showing the receipt doesn't bother me and certainly doesn't rise to the level of a "search" of my vehicle/property.

Not a leap at all. And they often paw through MY items in MY bags. Would you mind them searching your purse too?

No, I absolutely would not allow them to search through my personal bags. But I don't have a problem with them looking inside the shopping bags and shopping carts that THEY provide in THEIR store while simply checking that I have the items I paid for. If they tried to look into my bag or my wife's purse, I'd tell them NO in no uncertain terms and threaten to call the police if their harassment didn't cease immediately. But that's never happened to me.

karl wrote:I've never had a receipt checker paw through my bags. And I believe it is quite a leap from this policy to a full search of a vehicle or person. They're asking you to prove you purchased the goods you have, and in my experience it doesn't happen that often (Sam's etc. are exceptions).

austinrealtor wrote:

McKnife wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:I've never understood the disdain for these people. They are merely doing their jobs, and that job is to ask to see your receipt. What, may I ask, is the problem with showing them your receipt? What harm to you is it to show them when they request it?

What harm comes from allowing police to search you vehicle/property? They are just doing their jobs.

That's a heck of a leap from showing a receipt to searching vehicle/property. I would NEVER allow a retail store to "search" me. But if they're just checking my receipt against the items in THEIR shopping cart, I don't really see the problem either. If they DID try to stop/detain me, we'd have a BIG problem. But just showing the receipt doesn't bother me and certainly doesn't rise to the level of a "search" of my vehicle/property.