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by gemini
Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:18 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrollton PD Sued for Civil Right Violations
Replies: 89
Views: 13153

Re: Carrollton PD Sued for Civil Right Violations

gigag04 wrote:The first part I can understand. Someone getting out of a vehicle during a contact and stating they have a weapon is a HUGE issue. The officer told him to get back in the vehicle, then tried to push him back in, and after those failed he executed a straight arm bar takedown as the subject approached him. I don't think this part will get them in trouble.

The second part of the story, the part w/o video is where he has a very strong case - it just may be tough to prove. If there was in fact malicious conduct at the station I hope it is prosecuted. I'll be watching this one.
How someone interprets video is subjective to the viewers point of view.
I did not hear any officer tell Mr Statin to remain in the vehicle. Nor did I hear any
officer say "keep your hands where we can see them". When Mr Statin exited the vehicle
there was NO resistance, he had his back to the officer, as the officer grabbed Mr Statin's
arms, Mr Statin responded "I have a CHL" (paraphrased), the officer seized control of the weapon,
the officer already had Mr Statin's arms under control and behind Mr Statin's back. THEN the officer
decided to apply an arm bar, slam Mr Statin into the car in the next space and put Mr Statin on the ground.
I found it funny (heavy sarcasim) the officer then thought it necessary to say "quit resisting". Give me a break.
Had the officer placed cuffs on Mr Statin immediately after finding the weapon I probably would not be
too concerned. However, the use and abuse of unnecessary force to "take down" a person who is not
physically resisting is unacceptable behavior, in my opinion.
Had Mr Statin shoved the officer, gone into a fighting stance, tried to run, etc etc then I would probably
be supporting the officer. That's not what the video shows happened. In my opinion. As I stated previously,
interpreting the video is really in the eye of the beholder.
I will be interested to see what a jury thinks.
by gemini
Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrollton PD Sued for Civil Right Violations
Replies: 89
Views: 13153

Re: Carrollton PD Sued for Civil Right Violations

I saw the dash cam video last night and again this morning on the news. From the vid clips I
saw, I think the cop was totally out of line. The section where his field supervisor tells him he
might want to "smooth things over" prior to letting the man go, and hearing them laugh, was
just plain wrong on several levels.
The man was not resisting, he told them he had a CHL before the police even asked for ID.
Then was thrown around and put on the ground. :mad5 Disarmed etc.
I have several long time friends in law enforcement. I support and respect the job they do.
But, this kind of incident not only violated this mans rights, was a clear abuse of power,
it was totally unnecessary to control the situation and
it damages the public trust.
I hold LEO's to a higher standard of conduct. This type of scene hurts community relations.

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