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by gemini
Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Billie Joe Shaver NOT GUILTY in shooting outside bar
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Re: Billie Joe Shaver NOT GUILTY in shooting outside bar

Interesting story. I also thought BJS stopped drinking years ago, completely. Anyway, Coker seemed to be
on a mission to provoke Shaver. Poured his beer into another container, made Shaver move to another table,
stirred Shaver's beer with his knife blade, wiped the blade on Shaver's shirt etc etc.... FINALLY, it gets to
"lets go outside".... Coker has already flashed his knife..... Shaver has not shown any aggression to this point....
Coker approaches Shaver in a threatening move....Shaver pulls his .22 and fires. Jury finds him not guilty.

I've read plenty of posts on this forum where just because a couple of guys, wearing nice clothes, start in
a CHL'ers direction, the CHL'er had his hand on his gun ready to draw, no other provocation, but ready to shoot;
CHL'ers waiting behind closed exterior doors with gun in hand because someone they don't know rang their door
bell, ready to shoot; CHL'ers ready to draw and shoot for a lot less provocation and circumstancial evidence of
criminal intent. A lot less provocation to place their hand on their weapon, ready to draw and shoot.

I do believe in situational awareness, de escalate potential violent situations if at all possible,
but there does come a point when you must stand your ground. Only you will know the exact time and circumstance
you will make the decision to pull the trigger. Only you will know when you feel your life is in danger. Shaver eventually
reached the point he thought it necessary to pull and fire. (I don't agree with warning shots etc) Coker is lucky
Shaver was not upset enough to want to kill him, just scare him.

The carry in a 51% site is another issue.

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