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by gemini
Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Plano officer shoots suspect trying to activate light
Replies: 41
Views: 5327

Re: Plano officer shoots suspect trying to activate light

Hoi Polloi wrote:
gemini wrote:Excaliber: You apparently are willing to buy both of these scenarios as presented by defense attorneys weeks or months after the incidents as factual and complete accounts of what transpired in each case. I'm not as convinced as you are, particularly with regard to the Plano case.

No Sir. I'm not willing to buy anything the PD's or the attorneys present as scenarios. Not sure where that came from.
I was simply quoting your post. The only thing I'm convinced of is that 2 suspects are dead.
Hoi Polli wrote,
"Would you please use the quote box feature to quote others, or at the very least actual quotation marks. By preceding the paragraph with a forum name and colon, it looks like you're addressing your comments to him, not like you're quoting him."
Gemini responded,
"Ok. Sorry if my posts were confusing you."
by gemini
Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:26 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Plano officer shoots suspect trying to activate light
Replies: 41
Views: 5327

Re: Plano officer shoots suspect trying to activate light

Excaliber: You apparently are willing to buy both of these scenarios as presented by defense attorneys weeks or months after the incidents as factual and complete accounts of what transpired in each case. I'm not as convinced as you are, particularly with regard to the Plano case.

No Sir. I'm not willing to buy anything the PD's or the attorneys present as scenarios. Not sure where that came from.
I was simply quoting your post. The only thing I'm convinced of is that 2 suspects are dead.
by gemini
Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:57 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Plano officer shoots suspect trying to activate light
Replies: 41
Views: 5327

Re: Plano officer shoots suspect trying to activate light

Excaliber:Here we have a newly issued piece of equipment that requires a different mode of operation from similar gear the officer was much more familiar with, and a light activation switch that is turned on with rearward pressure applied just under the trigger guard.

Basically under-trained with the equipment in use? Result = death of suspect.

Excaliber:In the BART case, the officer had received far more training in firing his handgun than his taser, and the taser holstering system setup on his duty rig was arranged so that both the taser and the handgun would be manipulated by the same hand. The hand functions for drawing and firing both were the same. Under the stress of a struggle, while his mental decision was to draw and fire the taser, the hand assigned to that task performed the more dominant function instilled by training - drawing and firing the handgun.

Basically over-trained with the equipment in use? Result = death of suspect.

Not sure exactly what conclusion to draw.

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