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by TexCalhoun
Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:50 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?
Replies: 31
Views: 6881

Re: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?

These are very good suggestions.

I will write this up very carefully tonight and pull the photo of the displayed signage off my phone for their review.

Maybe we can get this changed or the rules clarified and posted.

Thanks!

EDIT: I think I'll also take a photo of the Supertuck holster (so they will know it looks nothing like a gun or a weapon). Anything else I should include? Perhaps a photos of me wearing the holster to demonstrate that it is a concealable holster and that wearing it is highly unlikely to cause alarm?
by TexCalhoun
Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?
Replies: 31
Views: 6881

Re: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?

A little more about my experience...

When I originally declared an "empty concealed inside-the-waistband holster" after failing to get through the metal detector (the metal detector was extremely sensitive and causing lots of problems and slow-downs), the sheriff's officer who was running the checkpoint loudly scolded, "You can't bring a knife in here!" I careful and clearly explained I did not have a knife, nor any other weapon. I merely had a concealed empty leather holster inside my waistband. I removed the holster and showed it to her. She responded (very loudly), "I said, you can't bring weapons in here!" I protested that my car keys and my fountain pen are much more dangerous than a concealed leather holster than no one sees. She said, "But if someone sees it, they're going to panic because they will think you have a gun!" She ordered me to leave the building and return the holster to my vehicle (requiring a bus ride to a remote parking lot) which takes about 45 minutes round trip.

On the way back out (had to carry my holster unconcealed back through the entrance through a crowd of people) while the officer announced to the crowd waiting, "You can't bring weapons in here!"

As I exited, I verified the sign at the door: No weapons. No guns. No knives. No pepper spray.

After having to wait for busses and returning the holster to my truck, I finally returned to security. I was rushing to put everything in the basket to run through the X-ray machine and the officer (the same woman) asked, "Why are you rushing?" I said, "I'm late because I had trouble getting through security earlier." She said, "Oh yeah, you were the one who brought the knife!" I sharply corrected her, "No. I did not bring a knife or any weapon at all. I know you get to make the rules at your checkpoint, and I can accept that, but I was not in violation of any law." She scolded me, "The sign on the door tells you that you cannot bring a weapon." I said, "It was an empty holster, not a wea..." She cut me off, "The sign is clear, you violated the law." Not caring to get arrested, I ended our conversation by saying, "I suggest you reread your sign. I've tried to act in good faith. The first notice I received was from you."

I hurried on my way to the jury room. By that time, I was 30 minutes late and denied entry. I had to get rescheduled, and now I have to go back in November.

Is there anything I can do about this? What irritated me the most about the experience is the idiotic false claim, loudly announced, that I was carrying "a knife" or "a weapon". If she had just said "we don't allow firearms accessories on site", I would have been frustrated, but not angry. If they are going to exclude accessories, I think they need to post that information.
by TexCalhoun
Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:54 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?
Replies: 31
Views: 6881

Re: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?

I'm standing on the street waiting for the bus to take me back to the parking area to drop off my holster. Not only was it a problem, but I was asked to remove it in the presence of the ret of the jury cattle call and denied entrance. I was told, "someone is going to see that and panic", which is unlikely since it is almost imperceptable.

I protested that there's no law against it, but I did not prevail.

In any case, because of the bus service, I'm going to be about 30 minutes late for my appearance.

WARNING: Do not wear a holster for Tarrant County Jury Duty!
by TexCalhoun
Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?
Replies: 31
Views: 6881

Re: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?

KC5AV wrote:I wore my supertuck through the metal detector at the courthouse the last time I had to register my truck, and it didn't go off. I think you're probably good to go.
Do you have the new metal clips or the older plastic ones?

I just received the new clips through their fantastic warranty program...
by TexCalhoun
Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Empty Holster in Secure Locations?
Replies: 31
Views: 6881

Empty Holster in Secure Locations?

In the mail today I received a summons to report for jury duty in three weeks.

Now I don't mind serving and I know I can't carry my Sig to court, but I have a Supertuck IWB holster I wear everywhere, and I'm wondering what to do.

If I leave the holster at home, my waist size diminishes by about 2 inches and my pants won't fit properly, and if I wear my holster, should I expect trouble going through security?

Does anyone wear an empty IWB holster when flying, in federal buildings, or in sporting arenas where you have to pass through metal detectors?

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