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flintknapper wrote:Pretty much proves the point I've tried to make here several times before:
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My argument is not generally "well received", but the truth nonetheless. It is well to follow as many of the four golden rules as you can, but the most important is: KEEP YOUR FINGER (and everything else) OFF THE TRIGGER.

A careful (and honest) evaluation of your mode of carry will reveal that most people "cover" themselves (or someone else) while carrying concealed. The only reason this is not better understood/demonstrated is because MOST people keep their finger off the trigger. Simple!

Generally, you are correct...We almost all end up covering ourselves on the draw and as we reholster. Every system has it's issues but I find most shoulder rigs slow, cumbersome and rude. Yeah, I said rude!

Here's the deal...I generally don't care anymore if someone shoots themselves. It's unfortunate but, experience is a great teacher. She's usually slow and the lessons are almost always painful but, she's VERY thorough. As it happens, most shoulder rigs actually manage NOT to point the muzzle at the guy carrying the gun. And if all I had to worry about was a guy giving himself an instant mastectomy with a shoulder rig, I probably wouldn't care. However, more than once, some poor sap like me has glanced down at someone armpit's only to see a muzzle staring him in the face! That is RUDE!

Yes, I realize that so long as his boogerhook ain't (or shouldn't be) on the bang switch all will be fine unless there's something wrong with the gun. Oh...But what if there is something wrong with that gun? Well, if it was IWB/OWB, the guy might poke a whole in his hind quarter or a foot but, I'm willing to accept the risk of someone shooting themselves.What is a concern is having a gun needlessly sweeping everyone even if no one has their finger on the trigger. Let me put it another way...Are you willing to let me point my muzzle at your forehead while my finger resting well outside the trigger bow and high on the slide? I'm certainly not willing to let you do it to me.

OK...I'm done being silly. I've got to head over to Top Gun, we're supposed to be doing carbines tonight.

Later

Its content violates forum rules due to languageso I can't post a link. But, might I suggest looking up the "Plaxico Burress On Gun Safety" video that has been uploaded to YouTube?

ELB wrote:Just got back from a medical run as a VFD first responder. Some notes:

1. Always carry your Kahr P-40 -- or any other pistol -- in a pocket holster. It will help with numbers 2 and 3 below.

2. Keep your finger off the trigger when you are pocketing your pistol. Keep everything else off of the trigger when pocketing the pistol. See number 1.

3. When pocketing the pistol, make sure you have it pointing parallel to your thigh, not pointing at it, not even slightly. More generally, don't point your pistol at anything you really don't want to put a hole in. Also, see number 1.

4. .40 Gold Dot expands perfectly when passing completely through approximately 12 inches of flesh without contacting bone.

5. Getting shot can be painful. You don't necessarily bleed externally alot, but the swelling can be quite impressive. And painful.

End of lesson.

Not pointing fingers because I'm assuming you witnessed rather than experienced these lessons, right? We must learn from other people's mistakes...We surely will not live long enough to make them all ourselves!