TexasCHLforum.com

ClarkLZeuss

Beiruty wrote:A good read from first hand witness of those who attempted to rescue US Ambassador in Libya:
They have said preliminary reports said that amid the evacuation, Stevens and foreign service officer Sean Smith were inside the consulate with a regional security officer. They got separated in the smoke. The security officer and others went back in to try to find the two of them and found Smith dead. They pulled him out but flames and gunfire forced them to flee before they could find Stevens.

Al-Bakoush and his colleagues said that once they learned his identity, they were stunned Stevens had been alone.

"I've never seen incompetence and negligence like this, from the two sides, the Americans and the Libyans," he said. "You can sacrifice everyone but rescue the ambassador. He is the ambassador for God's sake."
Full report: http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-libya ... 48880.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks Beiruty. I had read some partial, related facts, but not the whole story like this. I remember when the pictures first came out of Stevens' body being carried, everyone assumed they were parading around his corpse. And then the facts came out, like you have quoted, that in reality these civilians were trying to save him. It makes me wonder if they were part of the protest group? That would be ironic. And it would also prove that the assault on the consulate was done by another group. Regardless, it is refreshing to know that in the midst of all the chaos in Libya, there are many good men like the ones mentioned in that article.

ClarkLZeuss

The Annoyed Man wrote: One man, who by the way is obviously insane, as are the stupid morons who attacked our embassies and killed an ambassador and 3 others over a movie so stupid that it is only rivaled by the people who murdered them.

Btw, minor but very important clarification: that movie was not why Stevens and others were killed. It was simply the cover being used by a group who pre-planned the attack:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico- ... 35664.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClarkLZeuss

Beiruty wrote:
ClarkLZeuss wrote:Beiruty, I have read a lot of what you've written on this forum, and I have a lot of respect for you, so I want to address you respectfully. Your underlined statement above is rather troublesome and I need to address it, because IMO it is a false moral equivalency. Which violent Christian extremists are you referring to? And why would you label them Christian - how are they using Christian teaching to justify their violence?
Example, A living current-day Templar Knight, a crusader, or so he does claim:
[ Image ]

Latest: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world ... wanted=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes, I am familiar with this man (and personally disdain him). He is Western, white, non-Jewish, non-Muslim, and calls himself a Crusader. How does that make him a Christian? Which Christian teaching was he following?

ClarkLZeuss

Beiruty wrote:The answer is to minimize and eliminate the support that extremists may cultivate. And, this on both sides. Do not forget that there are extremists from many other religions, including Christianity.

What matters is that targeting civilians as per Islamic law, is forbidden.

Beiruty, I have read a lot of what you've written on this forum, and I have a lot of respect for you, so I want to address you respectfully. Your underlined statement above is rather troublesome and I need to address it, because IMO it is a false moral equivalency. Which violent Christian extremists are you referring to? And why would you label them Christian - how are they using Christian teaching to justify their violence?

TexasCHLforum.com

Search found 4 matches

Re: Egyptian Terrorists Attack US on 9/11

Re: Egyptian Terrorists Attack US on 9/11

Re: Egyptian Terrorists Attack US on 9/11

Re: Egyptian Terrorists Attack US on 9/11