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Purplehood wrote:
I too believe in looking at history, but I recognize that it is simply as valuable as experience is to the old and the wise. It is only as useful as you make it. The problem arises when folks look at history and take it out of context or use it as a logical fallacy to explain away a position.

EDIT: In order to clarify, I don't blame Bush for anything to do with this present administration. I only blame him for what he did during his. The present administration has only themselves to blame.

That seems logical to me. I never said I supported what Bush/Cheney did either. Just think its insane to blame them for current problems/decisions made by Obama.

Obama himself does this. Most of his speeches allude to all the problems he "inherited". Yeah, he didn't vote for any of those economic problems he's blaming Bush for now, right?

marksiwel wrote:
Whats that about those who fail to read their history are doomed to repeat it? i cant remember. It must be my 5 year old mentality

There's a distinct difference between reading history and blaming history for current decisions.

The most amusing part of this thread has been the constant referrals to how horrible Bush and Cheney were.

Two things yall might like to keep in mind..

1) It's 2009. Love em or hate em, Bush/Cheney and Co have been out of power for 11 months. Someday, you're going to have to move beyond this 5 year old "but they did THIS" mentality that excuses every bad decision from the CURRENT administration.

2) Continuing on the 5 year old mentality of "but THEY did THIS!", what part of anything a previous administration did excuses the decisions made by the current ones. I think I'm going to run for office, take some insanely stupid stance on an issue, then retort with "Well, LINCOLN suspended HABEUS CORPUS!" It seems to have been working for the big O.

Zee wrote:Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) English philosopher, political theorist, political economist, civil servant and Member of Parliament, was an influential Classical liberal thinker of the 19th century whose works on liberty justified freedom of the individual in opposition to unlimited state control.

The part about freedom of the individual in opposition to unlimited state control sure sounds A LOT like Obama and the current Democrats, doesn't it?

The Classical liberal thinker of the 19th century is the anti-statist libertarian conservative of today.