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You stated they were unelectable in a general, yet polling shows that the Kool aide man would have a chance against Obama as long As he had an R by his name...

So my point is you're wrong.

loadedliberal wrote:The big 3 in the mix as I see it are Palin, Bachmann and Perry. All have some baggage, none are electable in a general election. Having said that I would rather see Perry than Palin.

From rasmussen:

Generic Republican Candidate 46%, Obama 42%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ial_ballot

Bullwhip wrote:

74novaman wrote:Don't know if I'm the only one that's noticed it this week, but the paulbots seem to be out in force after the debate.

Isolationism isn't a foreign policy, it is a lack of one.

Whats that got to do with Ron Paul?

I have lots of things I don't agree with Paul about, but he's not isolationist. The INTERVENTIONIST people keep Americans more isolated. It's harder to travel around the world and have free trade now than if we weren't making enemies by our foreign policy. Paul says over and over he wants free trade with all. Just like Jefferson, "trade with all alliance with none". Works pretty good for the Swiss, they're not isolationist.

After looking up the definition of isolationism, I have been misusing the word. He's not an economic isolationist, but he wants to end foreign aid (I like that, I'm okay with us not sending money to people who want to kill us anymore) and has said close down the bases, bring the troops home, etc.

While in a perfect world, that should would be great....reality kind of butts up against it. If you cannot pressure a country economically, and will not intervene militarily, then your foreign policy consists of looking pretty and asking nicely for them to do things that don't conflict with US interests.

So you're right, it isn't isolationism...it is asknicelywithnootherdiplomaticoptionism.

As for the Swiss, there are two reasons it works so well for them.

1)Geography...good luck invading Switzerland. You could argue that the Atlantic and Pacific do the same thing for us as the Alps do for the Swiss...however,
2) BANKING. No one is willing to harm Switzerland because everyone wants to do business with them and more specifically, their banking system. I'm not a financial expert, but it seems to me that dismantling the Fed as Paul talks about constantly (mentioned it 18 times in the debate this week) is likely to spur a withdrawal of international money, not spur investment. Perhaps if private banks were able to step up and prove themselves, that would change over the 5-10 years after the Fed was dismantled. But the immediate result would be foreigners withdrawing US investments, and everyone in the world knowing the man in the White House isn't willing to use the military overseas for anything. Seems like an interesting time....

Don't know if I'm the only one that's noticed it this week, but the paulbots seem to be out in force after the debate.

Isolationism isn't a foreign policy, it is a lack of one. And in this day and age, I hate to say it, he just doesn't look presidential enough to be elected by the same electorate that put Obama in because he looked good and can read well off a teleprompter. He's too old, and too much of a one note pony (the fed, the fed, the fed, banks, currency, the fed).

Perrys a politician like the rest of them, but we could certainly do worse for President.

RoyGBiv wrote:

RHenriksen wrote:As much as I appreciate Gov Perry's 2A support, for a presidential candidate I'm leaning towards Pawlenty right now.

Tim is shooting himself in the foot attacking Romney right now, IMHO.

Not a good strategy for the GOP if we want to beat BHO next November.

If they're not willing to attack each other, what makes you think they'll have the guts to attack obama when the media starts calling them racists?

Now, I'd rather they not dig up damaging dirt on each other that the dems could use later, but by all means, tear into teach others polices for not being conservative enough!

Edit: To clarify a little more, I thought it was nauseating how much mccain fell all over himself to praise obama during the campaign. Have some guts! Let everyone know: He doesn't know what he's doing! He loves the perks and hates the job! His policies have done nothing to turn around the economy and have driven us further into debt!!

How hard is this, repubs?!