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by 74novaman
Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:03 am
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

The Mad Moderate wrote:I cannot believe what I am reading here, you people of all people should be sticking up for these people who are patriots and love their counter as much as we do. They are fighting for people not corporations like the Tea Baggers are, how have the GOP convinced you people to work agents your own interests. The Citizen United ruling was the final nail in the coffin of our democracy, the corporations are the problem here they have been for a while. Its insane to me that there are people who do not see the wool being pulled over our eyes by the corps and the media. The insults here are the same that were lobbed at the TP before the only difference is in this case they are far more inaccurate.
"rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol"

You're joking right? I mean, you have to be. Interviews with these protesters have shown they want an end not just to the "evil corporations man" (which btw you have to be a little slow to believe thats the problem here) but an abolition of private property, they want to set income levels, they want more govt in general..because hey, they've only screwed up everything they've ever tried...lets give them another chance!!


Here is the truth, whether you want to accept it or not. True capitalism is the ONLY system in human history where work/goods is exchanged for goods/money/services. If we do not interact with each other on these terms, we are forced to interact with each other through force and violence.

These "protesters" (some of them paid to show up by ACORN) are what Lenin would refer to as "useful idiots". Anyone who supports them fall into the same category.

money, or violence. There is no other means for humans to interact with each other.

But hey, communism only killed 100,000,000 people or so in the 20th century. Maybe in the 21st it'll have a better track record! Let's try it! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
by 74novaman
Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:23 pm
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

Dave2 wrote:The annoying thing is, I read somewhere that if you were to sum up all the occupiers' frustrations into one statement, it would be "we demand separation of corporation and state", which I agree with; they're just being so bloody distasteful while they say it. And I'm not even sure they really are saying that, since they seem to shun any form of leadership that could speak on their behalf.

I know we're supposed to judge the message rather than the messenger, but these people make that really hard.
Some of them may indeed be decrying corporate influence in politics...but a lot of them are supporting Obama, who received (big gasp here) a HUGE amount of money from Wall Street.

What they're really advocating is the use of government (force) to seize money from "the rich" so they won't have to work.

And THAT is the fundamental difference between the Tea party and the Occupy scum.

Tea Party is saying "Leave us alone!!"
Occupiers are saying "Use force to give us what we want!"
by 74novaman
Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:48 am
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

Mad monkey, agree 100%. I was fortunate enough to have my parents help me pay for college, though most of the bill was footed by loans. My degree is in history. Not the most marketable, but I plan on eventually getting a doctorate and writing books. After school, decided I was in enough debt for now and started working.

Unfortunately for me, I'm down from 1 full time job to 2 part time jobs. But, I'm paying off my loans, paying my bills and have enough savings to keep doing both for 6 months if I lost both jobs tomorrow.

Looking back, would I have done things differently? Absolutely. But no one put a gun go my head and forced me to go to school or borrow money and if working several part time jobs is what it takes to pay my bills and not live in the parents basement I'm happy to do it.

These kids protesting weren't forced to borrow 100k. They need to grow up, find what work is available and take some responsibility for their own lives.
by 74novaman
Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:52 pm
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
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Re: Occupy Wall Street

MadMonkey wrote:I feel for the ones who are truly hurting and just trying to stay afloat...


...but I'm pretty sure most of them are at home working their butts off, and not marching in a glorious orgy of immaturity :roll:
Can't occupy anything if you're occupying a job.

I'm willing to bet a lot of these people are occupying one of the following places:

Social Security Disability
Welfare
Daddy's pocketbook
by 74novaman
Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:36 am
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Topic: Occupy Wall Street
Replies: 152
Views: 22301

Re: Occupy Wall Street

The greatest answer to the question of "What are they protesting?"

"Growing up"

The good news is I have zero doubt these wall street protests will soon be over. The first good cold snap that hits new york, they'll scurry back to their moms basements and vw buses. The ones in LA might go a bit longer, but the NY protests should be over in a month or less.

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