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by mr surveyor
Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:43 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another Home invasion with terrible results!
Replies: 46
Views: 8540

Liberty wrote:
mr surveyor wrote:and the Fox News (Sunday morning "Fox and Friends" show) follow up discussion one week later is almost reminicient of the advice given to young women in the 1970's when attacked by rapists. The basics from the wonderful advisor on Fox ... just stay calm and give them whatever they want..... don't be a hero and attempt to fight back... be patient and try to find a second when they aren't watching and make your escape... and on and on... even to the point of answering the "blonde" question about locking yourself in the bathroom. I just can not believe that there are law enforcement "professionals" that would even suggest that a locked bathroom (in probably 95% of homes would be a definite dead end with absolutely NO escape route) would deter a person bold enough to breach your home's first line of defense, being a closed/locked outer door.

One question was posed (very timidly) about a homeowner being armed, and the answer was a rather terse maybe, but probably not advisable because of the greater danger of the homeowner shooting him/her self. This has still got to be an issue of local environment and upbringing. It seems that the ONLY mindset that is promoted on any media outlet is the big city elitist mentality. Almost the same as the political mindset of not fighting back against an enemy because we may upset them more.
I watched the same show, and was just as shocked about the advice, except my perception about the question of homeowners owning guns was positive in light of the stance about cooperating. I was sort of surprised when they actually advocated having a gun in ones home. Of coarse there were the standard, caveats about getting training, checking with the local police department (Yeah, sure thing :grumble )

yep, the "call your local law enforcement to get proper training" advice is what seems to counter the advice that owning a gun is appropriate. It's the big city police chief opinion that homeowners should NOT have guns that seems to pervade. That is possibly a perception created by an oversealous anti gun media though. I just think the "run and hide crowd" has a much more willing accomplice in the media than the "defend yourself crowd". Most of these people really believe that it is the duty of their local police department to "protect" them from these type occurances.
by mr surveyor
Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:24 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another Home invasion with terrible results!
Replies: 46
Views: 8540

and the Fox News (Sunday morning "Fox and Friends" show) follow up discussion one week later is almost reminicient of the advice given to young women in the 1970's when attacked by rapists. The basics from the wonderful advisor on Fox ... just stay calm and give them whatever they want..... don't be a hero and attempt to fight back... be patient and try to find a second when they aren't watching and make your escape... and on and on... even to the point of answering the "blonde" question about locking yourself in the bathroom. I just can not believe that there are law enforcement "professionals" that would even suggest that a locked bathroom (in probably 95% of homes would be a definate dead end with absolutely NO escape route) would deter a person bold enough to breach your home's first line of defense, being a closed/locked outer door.

One question was posed (very timidly) about a homeowner being armed, and the answer was a rather terse maybe, but probably not advisable because of the greater danger of the homeowner shooting him/her self. This has still got to be an issue of local environment and upbringing. It seems that the ONLY mindset that is promoted on any media outlet is the big city elitist mentality. Almost the same as the political mindset of not fighting back against an enemy because we may upset them more.
by mr surveyor
Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:29 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another Home invasion with terrible results!
Replies: 46
Views: 8540

govnor wrote:Notice that one of the charges was "sexual assault." That means rape, but they won't say that of course. They also don't show a picture of the perps, which I think they should.

Doors locked, dog in house, security system armed, several loaded guns by the bed and on my person even when I'm home. People think I'm paranoid.


really????????????

I must be paranoid too! :smile: And all my friends and family.
by mr surveyor
Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:40 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Another Home invasion with terrible results!
Replies: 46
Views: 8540

and these clown didn't have a history of "violent crimes"?????


when is this pathetic society we live in going to realize that breaking into and stealing from a habitation IS an act of violence.

I have personally had my back door kicked in and had many totally unreplaceable family heirlooms as well as a lot of insured "stuff" taken. No one was in the house (1986), but my late mother in law could have very well been sitting in the living room in a rocking chair, oblivious to the world around her. These cowardly thugs that kick in doors and enter homes are just going to see a helpless old lady and suddenly say "oh, sorry ma'am.... wrong house" and leave? Yeah, right..... burglaries aren't violent crimes.... until someone is home.

We should be ashamed of ourselves as a society for electing politicians and judges (or electing politicians that appoint judges) that have so weakened our system of enforcement of and punishment provided for in the hundreds of thousands of existing laws in this United States of America.

rant not over.... I just reserve the right to continue at a later date :cool:

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