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by A-R
Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: quick is this sign valid or only the 30.06?
Replies: 41
Views: 4271

Re: quick is this sign valid or only the 30.06?

Vic wrote:While I agree that the instructors should be covering all the material or otherwise be reported, I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion of reporting instructors. I meant my posts merely as an example of how it is possible to go to the class, pay attention, have an interest in learning the material, and still come away with an incomplete understanding due to poor instruction.


As for the reporting, the instructor for the first class made it abundantly clear that this was one of his final classes, maybe the final one. He expounded on his health concerns for a while. I don't want that to sound callous, I did feel for his plight, but then again, that's not the subject of the class. In any case, I believe that particular problem took care of itself. I don't believe that instructor is still teaching.

As for the second, I'm not going to be the one to make a case out of it. The instructor is a 28-year veteran DPS trooper. I find it patently unrealistic to think that there would be any real inquiry. In an ideal world, that wouldn't enter into it, but we all know this isn't an ideal world.
Vic,

What these instructors are doing is against the law. If they do not teach the required subjects or do not teach for the minimum required time, then by signing off on the forms that they did fulfill the requirements, they are falsifying government records. This is a serious crime. I believe this falls under Chapter 37 of the Penal Code, 37.10 Tampering with Government Records and penalties range from a Class B misdemeanor to a third-degree felony.

Would you not report a retired law enforcement officer for committing some other crime with a Class B -to- 3rd degree felony punishment range?

The DPS officer in charge of the division that monitors this made it very clear at the latest instructor class that they take this kind of thing VERY seriously.

I strongly encourage you to report these instructors.
by A-R
Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: quick is this sign valid or only the 30.06?
Replies: 41
Views: 4271

Re: quick is this sign valid or only the 30.06?

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:I agree a CHL is not a right...its a permission slip for a right that we are being denied.
NIcely put. :clapping:
by A-R
Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: quick is this sign valid or only the 30.06?
Replies: 41
Views: 4271

Re: quick is this sign valid or only the 30.06?

sjfcontrol wrote:As I added above, DPS will investigate student charges of instructor misconduct. DPS REQUIRES 10-15 hours of instruction. If the class didn't last that long, DPS is very interested. Also, DPS requires coverage of certain subjects.

:iagree:

Please report these instructors to DPS if they are:

* Not teaching the minimum 10 hours
* Not covering the four required topics
Texas Government Code wrote:Sec. 411.188. HANDGUN PROFICIENCY REQUIREMENT.
(b) Only a qualified handgun instructor may administer a handgun proficiency course. The handgun proficiency course must include at least 10 hours and not more than 15 hours of instruction on:
(1) the laws that relate to weapons and to the use of deadly force;
(2) handgun use, proficiency, and safety;
(3) nonviolent dispute resolution; and
(4) proper storage practices for handguns with an emphasis on storage practices that eliminate the possibility of accidental injury to a child.

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