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by A-R
Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:08 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Glock - 1911 merger
Replies: 24
Views: 4443

Re: Glock - 1911 merger

Crucial wrote:I always thought of the HK USP variant 9/10 as the closest to a Glock-1911 merger, at least of anything currently available. You could have the cocked and locked, single action pull every time, along with the polymer frame and generally comparable Glock capacity.

Although to me, it's an entirely different feel and doesn't really equate to either a Glock or 1911. It would be nice to have the best of both worlds.
Yeah, I've always liked the USPs. But what I want is basically a 1911 with the light weight and durability/reliability of a Glock. Want same grip angle, pointability etc of a 1911 - which USP doesn't have (not saying USP is bad - just not same as 1911).

Of course, I'd settle for any truly thin single-stack Glock - G36 doesn't count as it's a 6+1 .45 that is same basic size as my 13+1 G23 .40-cal.

Seems to me one of the biggest stumbling blocks with Glocks' blockiness is the polymer mags. Use thin steel or aluminum mags like every other gun maker and you shave a significant portion of the width needed in the overall gun .... the XD proves this theory with its own metal mags.

Give me a Glock the size of a Walther PPS in 9mm and the size/dimensions of a 4-inch Commander size 1911 in .45 ....
by A-R
Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Glock - 1911 merger
Replies: 24
Views: 4443

Re: Glock - 1911 merger

terryg wrote:Sorry AR, I already beat you to it in this post:

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No, that was just silly. I'm being completely serious :biggrinjester:
by A-R
Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Glock - 1911 merger
Replies: 24
Views: 4443

Re: Glock - 1911 merger

AndyC wrote:Wilson Combat - Spec Ops 9 - but at $2,000, they can keep it.
:iagree:

This is why it's gotta be a Glock to work. They already make $250 guns they sell for $525 retail. They should be able to make a Glock 1911 for about $400 and sell it for $800.
by A-R
Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:21 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Glock - 1911 merger
Replies: 24
Views: 4443

Glock - 1911 merger

So I'm tossing out a wild theory for discussion. May border on blasphemy to some on both "sides" but hear me out (this is a bit long-winded).

It's no secret I'm a Glock fan. But while I play along in the Glock vs. 1911 tit-for-tat, I truly admire and respect (and some day hope to own) a classic JMB-designed 1911. For my money, those two handgun designs are hands down the best in the history of the world. Doesn't really matter which is No. 1 and which is No. 2 - because third place is a distant afterthought, IMHO.

Closest I've owned to a 1911 was a Colt Mustang about 13 years ago. Great little gun. Wanted a larger caliber and didn't have the cash at the time to keep it and buy a bigger gun. So sold it and bought my Glock 23 ($500 mistake seeing used prices/values of the now discontinued Mustangs, but oh well). My biggest issue with the Mustang was how easily the grip frame would rust after a day of IWB carry unless I oiled it religiously every night.

Glock easily solved that problem with its polymer frame. And its tenifer slide and use of a lot of other polymer parts makes the gun durable and all but rust proof. The looser tolerances also make it likely the most reliable semi-auto handgun of all time. But even I admit the grip angle, blocky design, and double-stack mag makes learning to shoot the Glock well a bit of a challenge. Just like snub-nose revolvers, shooting a Glock well takes practice and developing a firm grip and muscle memory.

The 1911 design, on the other hand is a thing of pure beauty that points better than any gun I've ever held. With no practice at all I can hit bullseyes all day long at 10 yards with a properly sighted full-size 1911. But then I think of all the trouble of cleaning and oiling a 1911, parts that wear out faster (do Glock parts really EVER wear out?), etc and I think this is a gun I "want" but don't "need" and likely won't carry because for my purposes, a Glock just makes a better carry gun.

So - FINALLY - here's my crazy idea ...

A Glock 1911! Classic 1911 design with standard Government, Commander, and Officer sizes available (maybe even a smaller 9mm design too). A polymer frame with a tenifer-finished slide - or even an all tenifer version with a tenifered steel frame. All other parts are either stainless steel, tenifer finished, or polymer. Able to accept standard 1911 mags, holsters etc.

And here's the kicker ... offer the Glock 1911 in your choice of classic single-action design OR a version with a Glock safe-action striker-fired action (with or without additional thumb safety)

Yeah, yeah I know - blasphemy ... like a Chevy F150 or a Texas A&M Longhorn ....

But maybe, just maybe, this is what the gun world needs. An olive branch to both sides. This could be the start to world peace!

Or more likely it would be the biggest flop in the history handguns as both sides reject it like New Coke.

But at least I'm trying to bridge the divide ... can't we all just get along? :cheers2:

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