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doc540 wrote:Overcome during the National Anthem
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Doc, this photo is just stellar. Gets to me every time I open this thread.

On my way. Wearing Navy blue American flag tshirt & tan IDPA hat. No sign.

Will look for the TxCHLforum signs

tbrown wrote:

airboss wrote:

Bennies wrote: Media will be there it has been confirmed. Good news is there is designated media spokesperson.

Who might that person be?

Alex Jones.


I keed. I keed.

Jones is based in the Austin area. I betcha he does show up.

And if he does ...

Edited to add: below I'm responding to overall happenings in the thread since my last post (not to Chas' most recent post - which hit as I was typing mine) - carry on ...



um, ok .... well, anyone want to go to the range at noon Saturday?

Someone answering the FB page's message did respond to me today and asked what I thought should be done to "fix" that section ... I basically told him, highlight that sentence and hit DELETE. No way to "rewrite" that portion to be acceptable. Just remove it from the "platform" or "mission" statement or whatever that was supposed to be.

But that's just my $0.02. So far nothing has changed; the sentence is still on the FB page. That's the organizer's right, and I respect his right to leave it there even if I disagree with his decision to do so. I personally don't want to associate with any group that even hints at LEO bashing, nor with any group that might invite folks who would belittle LEOs. I'm all for calling out individual LEOs when they act poorly; but blanket statements are unhelpful (to put it mildly).

I'll likely just make this a game-time decision ... I was missing my son's soccer game to attend this anyway, so maybe I'll just go to his game instead.

Apologies to everyone, especially the event organizer, for creating tension, but I felt someone needed to answer for that particular line. And I still do.

As for pirate-whoever, I guess he made his own bed and can now lie in it.

I'm always amazed at the folks who will just throw a hissy at Chas or the mods. I don't agree with everything Chas thinks or posts. But this IS his site. His response was curt, but sometimes that's necessary to get someone's attention who isn't following the rules. Chas is a good guy (I've met him in person once) and a staunch defender of CHL, 2A, RKBA, AND LEOs. He wants this site to be respectful and respectable. A worthy goal, and one which he and his mods have achieved. I have a lot of respect for Chas, the mods, and this site for what they've built here. But I guess it's not for everyone.

Anyway, I'll of course let y'all know if I hear back anything else from the FB page organizer. And Bennies, thank you for passing along what you know.

Piratesailor, I did NOT call you stupid. I callee the text stupid - and IT is.

Apologies for incorrectly assuming this was your FB page and organization. This was your first post (or one of your first), right? I guess that's where I got the idea.

I stand by the rest of my comments. But have no ill will toward you and will take this up with the FB page directly.

I won't be attending until I get a satisfactory answer (and will post here what I find out). I don't like infighting anymore than anyone else, but I won't associate myself with any group that takes unprovoked pot shots at law enforcement.

Piratesailor wrote:Here ya go..

https://www.facebook.com/GunControlMoreCrime

Self-defense trainers teach avoidance and de-escalation. Lawful gun owners use force reluctantly and only in the gravest extreme when their lives are in immediate danger.
Responsible armed people function as the peacekeepers of the society. Unlike police, they will never give you a speeding ticket or ask for tax money to pay for their guns.

I just looked at your FB page. The cover photo has text embedded that I've typewritten word-for-word into the quote above.

I came into this thread late, and missed not only the OP link ot the FB page but also Purplehood pointing this out (with no response).

Purplehood wrote:I noticed this on the link provided by the OP:

Unlike police, a lawful gun owner will never give you a speeding ticket, or tax you to provide you with protection.

I have no intent to provide anyone with 'protection'. I am interested in self-defense only.

I find the highlighted quote offensive and stupid.

Offensive - you're throwing LEOs under the bus
Stupid - you sound like you think you're a better "peacekeeper" than a trained LEO ... this is what SCARES the fence-sitters, that we're all just a bunch of vigilantes and cop wannabes (like George Zimmerman, remember him?)

Seriously, in all due respect, I'd like an explanation ... I'm seriously considering not attending based on this text, which reads like a "mission statement"

ShepherdTX wrote:I do have a concern about carrying at an event like that. I know we can carry, but what is the risk of antis who start randomly accusing the CHLers in the group of "brandishing" their weapons? If I were an evil anti and I saw a pro-gun group protesting, one of the things I would do is start hollering that some of them were intentionally exposing their concealed weapons to get them arrested and hauled off to jail.

Just carry your pink gun that day so when they make false report to LEO that you brandished, ask them what your gun looked like, then when try say "black" - show LEO your pink gun

airboss wrote:

A-R wrote:Planning to be there. Yes, you can carry in the Capitol - just show your CHL to the person at the metal detectors, they'll scan it, then let you walk around.

Are you sure about that? Pretty sure you can carry outside but going through the metal detectors?? Not sure about that. Also, will there be any legislators there on a Saturday? A face-to-face meeting with your House Rep/Senate Rep is always better than an e-mail.

Yes, done it myself as have others
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LSUTiger wrote:I definitely support a peaceful protest and will definitely attend. My only concern is has this protest been properly vetted?

Doesn't an official protest require special permits and proper notice to the local government?

I know what some will say" I don't need permission...." as they are hauled off to jail for unlawful assembly. Things could turn into a fiasco really quick if this is not done properly.

I would like to have Mr. Cotton or someone who knows about this kind of thing to weigh in.

If it was organized by the NRA or the TSRA I would have no doubt as to it's legitimacy or legality. Normally protest organizers have a predetermined organized plan on how and what message to deliver and a organizers to direct the protest.

A bunch of random gun owners with signs and no cohesive message shouting and getting emotional would not reflect well on us. This needs to be done, but done correctly.

Let's all plan to attend but do our homework on what exactly is planned by organizers and how this thing is likely to turn out.

Great ideas

Thanks for nominating yourself to follow up on all that

"boy that's just a straight shooter with upper management written all over him."

but seriously, good thoughts ... anyone have any links to who is organizing this?

Can/should we have a secret TxCHLforum handshake? Or maybe all wear the same color hats?

Planning to be there. Yes, you can carry in the Capitol - just show your CHL to the person at the metal detectors, they'll scan it, then let you walk around.

Signs ...

Could go with this one


Or this one


But probably doesn't send the appropriate message

How about ...

"My guns have never killed anyone"

Or

"Why after every mass shooting they always want to take guns away from people who DIDN'T DO IT?"

or

"What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?"

Or

Husband.
Father.
American.
Gun owner.

*obviously altered to fit your particular situation*

Or

"Law-abiding gun owner"

Or

"Good guy with a gun"