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- Tue May 05, 2009 2:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Concealed carry at work
- Replies: 41
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Re: Concealed carry at work
We did have to sign a form stating that we recieved the new policies. Would this change things?
- Mon May 04, 2009 3:56 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Concealed carry at work
- Replies: 41
- Views: 5594
Re: Concealed carry at work
Thanks CWOOD. I believe I've come to the same conclusion after reading a little more.
No 30.06 signs and no oral communications at my work place.
I was just worried that it would be illegal for me to carry since they gave me written notice. I'm a little more at ease now that I know the wording of any written notice has to match the 30.06 wording to be cause for prosecution.
My conclusion is I can carry at work at the risk of my job but not prosecution.
No 30.06 signs and no oral communications at my work place.
I was just worried that it would be illegal for me to carry since they gave me written notice. I'm a little more at ease now that I know the wording of any written notice has to match the 30.06 wording to be cause for prosecution.
My conclusion is I can carry at work at the risk of my job but not prosecution.
- Mon May 04, 2009 11:18 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Concealed carry at work
- Replies: 41
- Views: 5594
Re: Concealed carry at work
I'd like to revive this slightly old post. I'll search around for more info on other post too.
My employer recently changed the company policy from one that did not specifically prohibit CHL carry at work to one that now says:
"Possession, use or sale of weapons, firearms or explosives on work premises, while operating company machinery, equipment or vehicles for work-related purposes or while engaged in company business off premises is forbidden except where expressly authorized by the company and permitted by state and local laws. This policy applies to all employees, including but not limited to, those who have a valid permit to carry a firearm."
So, for the last 4 years I've been able to carry at work, now I'm not legally allowed. I understand that part. I'm not happy about it though.
I believe that the change was brought about because we outsourced our HR department and they revamped all our company policies. Most of them just got more legalese and I imagine they are all boilerplate policies that the new HR department puts out for all their clients. I don't think this was an active decision by our owner. I think the owner just accepted most of the policies on the word of the HR company without knowing some of the implications. He certainly has the power to change the policy if he wants, I just don't know if he's friendly to CHL.
I know that the VP of my department has a CHL and probably doesn't like this policy as well. He may be a potential ally.
How could I go about trying to change this policy without drawing unnecessary attention to myself? Are there organizations out there that would help put pressure on the employer to change this policy? It might be a losing battle but I feel it's worth looking into.
My employer recently changed the company policy from one that did not specifically prohibit CHL carry at work to one that now says:
"Possession, use or sale of weapons, firearms or explosives on work premises, while operating company machinery, equipment or vehicles for work-related purposes or while engaged in company business off premises is forbidden except where expressly authorized by the company and permitted by state and local laws. This policy applies to all employees, including but not limited to, those who have a valid permit to carry a firearm."
So, for the last 4 years I've been able to carry at work, now I'm not legally allowed. I understand that part. I'm not happy about it though.
I believe that the change was brought about because we outsourced our HR department and they revamped all our company policies. Most of them just got more legalese and I imagine they are all boilerplate policies that the new HR department puts out for all their clients. I don't think this was an active decision by our owner. I think the owner just accepted most of the policies on the word of the HR company without knowing some of the implications. He certainly has the power to change the policy if he wants, I just don't know if he's friendly to CHL.
I know that the VP of my department has a CHL and probably doesn't like this policy as well. He may be a potential ally.
How could I go about trying to change this policy without drawing unnecessary attention to myself? Are there organizations out there that would help put pressure on the employer to change this policy? It might be a losing battle but I feel it's worth looking into.