I thought it was pretty clear. It just doesn't meet the requirements to be effective notice here in Texas for anyone, member or not. My former employer has a similar policy and includes guests. However, there are no 30.06 signs anywhere and guests never see the policy.thetexan wrote:Having now read the entire set of rules the general policies do state that "Costco policy prohibits firearms..." referring in the third person to the policy. None of the other 'policies' use this language. In other words it doesn't say "Costco policy prohibits liquor and tobacco sales to be made to minors." It says "Liquor and tobacco sales cannot be made to minors."
This may seem a parsing of the language but since there is a published policy on firearms in the warehouses and since the phrase "Costco policy prohibits..." refers to that policy where the other prohibitions are stated in the affirmative and do not refer to separately written policies, it seems that what the actual policy states is what prevails.
However the rules apply specifically to members and are not addressed to the guests since the policy clearly specifies the policy as a membership policy which the members are expected to agree to adhere to else your fee will happily be refunded. So, in their mind this 'policy' stops the members but only a 30.06 will stop the guests.
However this is probably taking parsing beyond the point of winning the argument. It's certainly poorly written and could be stated much more clearly.
Now I really feel better.
tex
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- Sun May 03, 2015 8:00 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Costco Gun Policy
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- Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:06 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Costco Gun Policy
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And we've also heard that it does not contain the language required according to Texas 30.06. So, they could only revoke the membership and you could not be prosecuted for trespass yet because you hadn't received the required notice yet.Mel wrote:Have you read your membership agreement? Since Costco is a private club, if they have it in their membership agreement, they don't have to post signs.Streetwalker wrote:I've been a Costco member for over 30 years. Carried in their stores in several states. I've never seen a sign at Costco anywhere.
When my wife and I left Portland Oregon after 25 years one of the top criteria was that we have Costco nearby. That being said if Costco posts a valid sign I'm gone.
I've never been a member, but I've heard that it is in the agreement.
- Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:35 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Costco Gun Policy
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Re: Costco Gun Policy
Just be aware that was in a different state with different laws. IDK what or how their laws apply in this situation. From the little I know, I believe the store should have been culpable in that case and the officers guilty, but the state didn't see it that way. Probably, maybe, hopefully, they had more evidence than we have here.philip964 wrote:They used this language on their website to have a Costco member Erik Scott killed by the Las Vegas police after he brought his legal concealed weapon into the their store and he inadvertently exposed it while bending down.
The store employee advised him verbally that guns were not allowed, but never asked him to leave. He then called the police.
Erik was a West Point Graduate with a MBA from Duke, a former Captain in the Army, and he was shopping with his girlfriend when he was killed by police.
The video cameras in the store were not working that particular day. Eye witnesses differed on their view of what happened just before he was killed by police.
There were no no gun signs at that store in Las Vegas as well.
So if you carry in Costco be sure to remember concealed is concealed. Its where I made my Wally walk.
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