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Steve, thank you for your valued input. That's about as clear as six feet of muddy water. Yes it is confusing, but at least we all recognize that it is.

Seriously, your explanation does help greatly. Thanks again.

Yayyyy! You found it C.F.! Thanks.

Most welcome KFP. My efforts were not futile. I did learn that the elusive sign does indeed exist. I've never seen one, as I haven't been in a pure bar since the mid 80's. Don't get me wrong I love a cold one every now and then, but when I go I always go to a bar within a restaurant(El Chico's, TGIFridays, Chili's, Mexican Inn, Joe T.Garcia's, Olive Garden, Saltgrass Steakhouse, etc). (you can tell I love Mexican Food). Somehow food and a cold one seem to go together.

P.S. The picture itself is on P.109 of that brochure in the url I posted.

As an addendum to my above comments, I'd like to say I found the "51% sign". I was in error earlier when I said it doesn't exist.
HERE is the "51% sign" wording:

" —FELONY NOTICE—
The licensed or unlicensed possession of a weapon on
these premises is a felony
with a maximum penalty of
10 years imprisonment and
a fine not to exceed $10,000.
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission
P.O. Box 13127 Austin, Texas 78711-3127
Toll Free 1-888-THE-TABC (Voice/TDD)"

It can be found on P.109, of the 2004 edition of the Alcoholic Beverage Retailer's Guide - What Every Alcoholic Beverage Retailer Should Know:

http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/publication ... de2004.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Welllllllll........I just got off the phone with a lady that works out of the Dallas District Office of TABC, and after much explaining, she is claiming that the stand alone "51%" sign does indeed exist, and that all 51% establishments SHOULD have that sign posted in a readily visible place, either ON the door itself, OR in a place where every one who first enters the premises can see it.

Ok, I'm through researching. I'll let you all sort it all out. And when you've finished sorting it all out, would you pleassseeee explain it to me?

MBGuy wrote:I can't believe I couldn't find a picture of one either, using Google or Bing. There is a TABC article that shows one on page 5 though.
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/publication ... ay9712.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 30.06 sign has nothing to do with alcohol, it's for any private property whose owner wants to keep out licensed concealed carry from the building and/or property. The 51% sign does exist, I've seen several.

Thanks you for your response on this MBGuy, and the "article". The "article" is actually a flyer that TABC mailed out as a newsletter, and is dated December, 1997.....12 years ago.

My contention is that the 30.06 sign IS valid, if not mandatory, for a 51% bar. It's valid for ALL establishments that wish to bar(no pun intended) CHL holders from entering their premises while carrying concealed.

I'm not saying you did not see a 51% sign at all. What I am suggesting that it is an old, obsolete sign that is no longer valid, and the law has been updated since the owner of the bar posted it, and new laws are in place that supersede it.

The 51% sign is now on the liquor license itself.

I will let SteveR and others that are more knowledgeable in TABC's rules/laws and regulations than myself, to verify or discount my claim.

To my knowledge there is no such thing as a 51% "sign" per se. An establishment that receives 51% or more of its revenue is required to post the infamous "30.06" sign though.

In addition, if you actually go into a bar and look at the liquor license itself, it does say, on the actual license:

" Sign = Blue "

or " Sign = Red "

Of course Blue means you are safe to enter concealed, while Red means it's a 51% established, and you are in violation of PC 46.035(1) if you enter.