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chabouk wrote: My main interest is in making sure questions are met with accurate answers, not gun shop lore or conventional wisdom. Yeah, it's work to dig up and quote the appropriate statute. Not a lot of work, but definitely more work than just popping off with a quick 30 second response that isn't supported by the facts.

So I guess my plea is this: instead of a "I don't know, but... " response, let's all take a few minutes to provide an accurate answer to the best of our abilities.

Well put chabouk, I totally agree. I know I've spent up to 30 minutes searching for a source document to accurately states a fact, instead of spouting off a claim which may or may not be correct. Legitimate questions should be answered carefully and accurately on a forum that discusses serious topics like we do.

This thread has made its ugly run. Can we put it out of its misery please?

It is human nature to feel challenged when one is approached with an opinion that conflicts with their own.

It is??? That's odd. I don't feel challenged at all when someone has a different opinion than my own. Because that's all it is...a difference of opinion. A diversity. It's not right or wrong....just different. I am secure enough in my opinions and convictions to believe I am not attacked when someone has a different opinion than mine.

It is also human nature to bring others into ones way of thinking. This creates debate...which can trigger emotions...

IMHO, this occurs only when one tries to impress upon another their way of thinking and takes it beyond the norm of congenial discord. To me this indicates a need to control another peoples thoughts, which I don't care for in the least.

At the most, we should offer our opinion. If it is rejected then that's fine. In that case, it's an alternative opinion. And alternatives are always a good thing to consider. If it's accepted, then that's fine too. At the least, you've identified another 'kindred spirit'. And that's always a good thing.

Note: the above is merely my opinion, and I stand unanimous in that.

USA1 wrote:

longtooth wrote:I dont think I took your name yesterday Joe. I turned the list in to charles last night tho so cant remember for sure. LT

Uh Oh, there's a list...Yikes

Don't worry Joe. You're one of the most respected members here.

And may I take this opportunity to compliment all of you on what excellent judge's of character you all are.

jimlongley, you're logic is inescapable and I totally agree with your conclusions.

I will not go look up this stat but there is no doubt in my mind we have had to discipline more in the last 9 months than in the previous 4.5yrs.

Oh dear! I've been here 9 months almost exactly to the day. Am I in trouble again?

Dutch, as long as you keep that mindset, and listen to your inner voice, you will do just fine when you start carrying!

I share your sentiments chabouk. Well put.