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I sent an email to Chief Flory expressing concern over the mis-statement of the law by Lt Roberts. I will post his response should he send one.

Edited to add the text of my email: (no response yet)

Chief Flory, I have read your account of the arrest of the CHL Holder at Harris Hospital and appreciate your quick and forthright response. I know that a lot of the concern by CHL holders was over the statement of Lt Roberts that “there are no exceptions� to carrying in a hospital, when in fact there is an exception. This statement is seen by many to indicate a lack of understanding of CHL laws by Bedford PD. Those CHL holders that I know strive to keep abreast of the law and any changes that would affect them. We want to observe the law and are concerned that a mis-understanding such as this statement might lead to our arrest when we are in the right.

Thank you.

(Commander)

anygunanywhere wrote:Any word an a legal defense fund?

Anygun

There is a previous post that indicates that TSRA is going to contact her and her CHL instructor tomorrow.

srothstein wrote:

Russell wrote:What "other sign" are you talking about, and how would this other sign apply to a CHL holder? It has been my understanding for quite some time that the only two signs a CHL holder has to pay attention to are a 30.06 sign and a 51% sign, that's it.

One of the signs I refer to is the one that every hospital and nursing home in the state is required by law to post. Under the Government Code, Section 411.204, they must post at each entrance a sign with the same wording as the 51 sign but without the red 51.

The nursing home where my Mother lives only posts a non-compliant (letters less than 1/4" tall) 30.06 sign. The sign that I have seen at Hospitals and was shown in the Channel 8 report is no where to be seen.

Lt Roberts comments in the Channel 8 report that "there are no exceptions" to carrying in a hospital tends to indicate that there remains a lack of knowledge about CHL laws by Bedford PD. In his explanation of this case, Chief Flory may have overlooked the concern of many over this mis-statement of fact.

If in fact, the Licensee did receive prior written notice, then she was definitely in the wrong. This case will hinge on if she did receive notice and if so, did it conform to the wording specifically required. Outside of the legal trappings, her judgement will be called into question as well.

The report stated that she had been an employee for over seven years and a CHL holder for two years. What occured last week that brought this to a head? Obviously someone either saw the gun in her purse or had knowledge that it was there. Instead of handling it internally, why was Bedford PD called? If this was the first time that her handgun became knowledge to her employer, why not send her home and instruct her to come back tomorrow without her gun? Suspend her for a period of time? or just terminate her on the spot? (which they apparently did) Its very possible that there may be more "issues" with this employee than are publicly known.

eagleeye wrote:Harris is a part of the "Texas Health Resourses" family of hospitals.

I see that Presbyterian Healthcare System is part of this group. That might explain why I have seen the exact same sign at
a Presbyterian Hospital.

After stopping, rewinding and starting the video several times (and straining my eyes)....the sign says "State law prohibits carrying a handgun on these premises". It is repeated again in spanish and then at the bottom there is reference to a legal code.

This sign is exactly the same as what I have encountered at Presbyterian Hospital of Greenville. Wordage must either be old or something required by the Hospital's Health Resources Code of Conduct.

It remains to be determined, but in the interview the former nurses aide said she had done everything right . She made no mention of any previous written warning from her employer.

Edit: I went back and read it one more time...the words "the" and "of" are not there. I have corrected it as above.

frankie_the_yankee wrote:

, though the hospital could fire her if it wanted to (I guess).

Apparently they already did....Channel 8 captions her as "Former Nurses Aide"

According to Bedford PD website, Lt. Kirk Roberts is Commander of their CID.

http://www.wfaa.com/video/wfaageneral-i ... vid=207805

Here is the link to the report....The Bedford PD spokesman is so WRONG in his statement.

Channel 8 quoted a hospital spokesman who stated that it was a violation of the Health and Safety Rules that apply to hospitals for employees to carry handguns on hospital property. Is Bedford PD filing on that or 30.06? If its 30.06, I'd say that Bedford PD is in the wrong. Could this turn into a test case over what is proper signage?

More to follow I'm sure.