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Tex1961 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:09 am

mayor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:28 am

jb2012 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:56 pm

mayor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:56 pm We could use a red flag law.

Is this a joke?

I understand that LTC classes could go horribly wrong.

I just find it ironic that, on the one hand, most members of this forum are against "red flag laws", yet, on the other, that's what this thread seems to advocate. Preventing an individual from receiving a LTC won't keep said individual from owning a firearm. It seems, to me, that the closest thing Texas has is Health and safet code - in particular Chapter 573 and it is vague as to how it works.
Returning their fee for the class and telling them, politely, to hit the road seems like a good idea.
Either we are all free or none of us are free.
My .02
IANAL

I understand the all or nothing, however in this situation there are a few differences... Nobody is preventing this person from owning a firearm and with constitutional carry it's a non issue anyway. Also I'd like to think there is a bit of a difference between a blanket red flag where anyone could call and have your firearms removed without due process and a situation where your are taking a class to be LICENSED to carry a firearm, and a seasoned Licensed instructor who is actively observing both your skills, (or lake there of), failure to follow basic commands and overall a danger to themselves and others as observed. We as instructors have a duty to inform if we feel that a student may be a danger to themselves or others though action, or words.

I also agree with this. I do not support Red Flag laws because of their potential for abuse by anti 2A forces that is certainly to occur. The exception I would be willing to look at is only if tightly controlled on what constitutes a "Red Flag"; due process is not taken away; no immunity for the accuser or state; and the state has to pay the legal expenses of the person accused (attorney of their choice) since the state wants to remove a Constitutional right without conviction of a crime.

But when you have very Pro 2A people (firearms instructors) concerned that someone is careless, reckless, or dangerous etc. I am inclined to say we should listen and be concerned. And as stated above, this student's Constitutional rights have not been impacted by this action.

Not an instructor, but as someone walking around in Texas, I would want you to contact the state.

A novice who has never seen or handled a firearm might have trouble until they go through a class learning how to shoot. But your description concerns me more about his anger management and would he be able to de-escalate a situation.