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by puma guy
Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:16 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Felony to Steal an Aluminum Can — or a Penny — in Texas
Replies: 27
Views: 6029

Re: Felony to Steal an Aluminum Can — or a Penny — in Texas

The Annoyed Man wrote:
puma guy wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Before copper tubing et al were specifically covered in a specific law, wasn't theft of this stuff already a felony?
Yes
So basically, this is merely a matter of the legislature "doing something," because the judicial system has refused to. What makes them think that the judicial system will treat the accused any differently, just because the legislature has thrown another law at the problem?
TAM Well the Ranger game is delayed so I can look at the forum :lol: I don't really know what the issue was with the legislation. The guy I caught was prosecuted under the pld statute I guess. When we caught him and turned him over to the patrolmen we told them he had a copper water line in his hand and dropped it. He had a load of aluminum from an awning and carport we had demolished. The patrolmen wanted to know the value of the stuff and I told him I had no idea. I didn't think it was enough fro a felony so I showed them the No Trespassing sign and he was arrested for felony tresspass. The next dat a detective called for more details, I met him and showed him the copper tubing he'd dropped and showed him where he'd twisted it off the connections. He told me any theft of copper was a felony. There may be some fancy lawyers that argue stealing a condensing unit with aluminum fin wrapped copper tubing doesn't meet the 50% criteria. I was pretty disgusted that the guy only got 90 days especailly with the circumstances. Of course that probably didn't come up in court. We need more judges to be victims of A/C theft and they'd realize it ain't the value of the raw material but the repairs/replacement costs.
by puma guy
Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:14 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Felony to Steal an Aluminum Can — or a Penny — in Texas
Replies: 27
Views: 6029

Re: Felony to Steal an Aluminum Can — or a Penny — in Texas

The Annoyed Man wrote:Before copper tubing et al were specifically covered in a specific law, wasn't theft of this stuff already a felony?
Yes
by puma guy
Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:13 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Felony to Steal an Aluminum Can — or a Penny — in Texas
Replies: 27
Views: 6029

Re: Felony to Steal an Aluminum Can — or a Penny — in Texas

The law existed before it was just altered. If you stole a piece of copper tubing prior to the change it was a State Jail Felony. Back in March I caught a guy red handed stealing aluminum and a copper line off a sink from my father's business the day after we buried my father in Houston National Cemetary. There was a wreath and notice on the door. ( we learned later he was there stealing the day of the funeral as well ) Any way a detective contacted me the following day to inform me the perp was being charged with felony theft. The scum only got 90 days. About 3 1/2 months later someone came and stole the A/C condensing unit and all the copper line cutting it off right at the exterior wall 15 feet up on the building. I have no doubt it was the same guy. I'm told that for an unstripped A/C unit they get about $20-50. Of course the damage is in the thousands. I'm OK with the change.

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