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This is ironic but I almost got to test the "dog shoot" theory in reverse just a few minutes ago. My dogs alerted to something outside so I went out the front door to see what they were sensing. I saw someone running in the street that "T's" my street on the right side(my house is on a corner) . I was about 10 feet from my front door and had just turned to the left when I heard a dog barking and then saw my neighbor's pitt bull charging me across my yard. I stood my ground but I was reaching for my Kahr when he stopped just short. The owner came down the sidewalk and as he did I gave him a warning to get his dog away from me. I didn't actually hear him call out, but the dog retreated. I won't go into a lot of detail but he's got 5 or 6 dogs and at least three are pitt bulls. They already attacked one neighbor woman on her yard and for some reason she didn't report him. I spoke with her husband and he said since he and his wife were new to the neighborhood they didn't want to make trouble She did have to get treated for the dog bite. I had to give him an ultimatum about walking his dogs past my home allowing them to defecate on the yard. It worked and I haven't had any problems since. I've seen animal control at his house several times and why nothing is done about the number of dogs is a mystery to me. I don't think this will have a happy ending but I can always hope he gets a brain.

C-dub wrote:

puma guy wrote:

C-dub wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

puma guy wrote:... Let's say someone with a CHL is replying to an ad for the sale of an item and owner's dog comes at them.

Gotta modify that a little. How about replying to an ad from a neighbor, and going to the wrong house.

With gun drawn...

Part in red is your biggest problem. The officer thought he was going into a bad situation and even then there was no reason to have already had his gun out. A CHL has even less of a reason to already have their gun out in your scenario.

It could be the wrong address in a newspaper ad or even someone approching the property to invite someone to come to a church Sunday service. I don't know that being at the wrong address would be pertinent or not so assuming there's not a no tresspassing sign or similar posting, I'll pose the question differently. Are LEO's under a different standard reacting to a perceived threat such as the barking dog coming toward them than a CHL? redundancy here: would both be protected under a case of defending themselves?

I'm not sure I understand your question. I am not a lawyer or LEO, so I'm not aware of a situation that would allow for an officer to approach a residence with their gun drawn where there was no known threat. Also, I cannot conceive of a situation where I would approach anyone's house, right or wrong address, with my gun drawn for any reason other than to prevent one of those crimes we are able to use deadly force to prevent. I also don't believe the officer just had his hand on his holstered gun before the dog came out and barked ONCE before he was killed. Once is all I could hear. Did he get more than one bark out? Anyway, ...

Keith B. is absolutely correct in that even a relatively small dog, 20-50 pounds, can cause severe damage. It probably won't be bone crushing, but tendon, ligament, or muscle damage is very possible and if they happen to get one of those sensitive areas they might hit an artery.

Sorry C-dub, I didn't realize I included your quote in my post and the question was not directed specifically to you. Whether or not weapon is drawn or not is not relevant to my question only the shooting the dog. A CHL would be in violation to approach with weapon drawn so that would be moot. I just wondered if both the LEO and CHL would be treated the same under similar circumstances regarding shooting a barking dog approaching them on private property.

C-dub wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

puma guy wrote:... Let's say someone with a CHL is replying to an ad for the sale of an item and owner's dog comes at them.

Gotta modify that a little. How about replying to an ad from a neighbor, and going to the wrong house.

With gun drawn...

Part in red is your biggest problem. The officer thought he was going into a bad situation and even then there was no reason to have already had his gun out. A CHL has even less of a reason to already have their gun out in your scenario.

It could be the wrong address in a newspaper ad or even someone approching the property to invite someone to come to a church Sunday service. I don't know that being at the wrong address would be pertinent or not so assuming there's not a no tresspassing sign or similar posting, I'll pose the question differently. Are LEO's under a different standard reacting to a perceived threat such as the barking dog coming toward them than a CHL? redundancy here: would both be protected under a case of defending themselves?

Without inflaming this anymore than it aleady is I'd like to pose a question. If this was a CHL and the situation were the same sans the perceived threat of domestic violence would APD defend the action to dispatch a dog under similar circumstances or be charging with a crime? i.e. barking dog approaching unrestrained? Let's say someone with a CHL is replying to an ad for the sale of an item and owner's dog comes at them.