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74novaman wrote: Lil Wayne has made many comments about smoking/dealing drugs. So its a little hard to push the "he's just an innocent black man trying to make a living" thing when he's admitted to crimes in the past. Just throwing that one out there.

So I have never heard of this guy until this thread, so I'm not a fan of him or his type of music.

But we run the laws in this country on evidence. One of the reasons I don't like rap and hip hop is because it idolizes drugs and gangs. But it is his image, and just because he says stuff doesn't make it so. Just because I write a novel about blowing up New York doesn't make me a terrorist. We are free to "judge" a persons reputation and whether we want to listen to their songs, but that judgment should not effect rules of evidence in a court of law. Otherwise we're just as guilty as the cops who fake evidence on the basis of "well, if he didn't do *this*, he's still guilty of something..."

Dudley wrote:

android wrote:Suppose you got invited onto Willie Nelsons tour bus to meet Willie.

Because there's no difference between a visitor and the bus owner.

Do you really think most cops will care?
If there are drugs on the bus, everybody on the bus is guilty. That's the way they think.

<blatant stereotyping follows, so sue me...>
I honestly doubt you will find a tour bus full of musicians without some sort of drugs on it. Unless maybe it's gospel, but even then I wouldn't bet any money on it. So I'm sure cops are constantly looking for any excuse possible to board and search one.

And I don't care. Do I want airline pilots, brain surgeons and semi drivers on drugs, no way. I make my living developing software, so I'm not going to fry my brain either. But musicians getting high and strumming out a few tunes on a bus driven by a designated driver with a chauffeur's license doesn't really bother me. (as long as he doesn't inhale! )

joe817 wrote:

But a citizen, minding his own business, in possession of a firearm, should not be a crime anywhere in this country.

I totally agree austinrealtor. Totally.

Why? He had a gun on his bus in Arizona. How in the world in AZ, which allows pretty much every kind of carry and possession could there be "weapons charges"?

Not only did he have a gun on a bus, but he was transporting enough dope to land felony drug charges against him.

Am I missing something here?

Yes, there were about 15 other people on the bus. Even if you made a rule, "no drugs on the bus", you're with a bunch of musicians and one of them is going to bring something. But where is there any evidence it was his or that he knew about it.

Seems a gun charge in conjunction with some other charge would have to be found guilty on the other charge first. Otherwise, the possession of a gun isn't illegal.

Suppose you got invited onto Willie Nelsons tour bus to meet Willie. While you're on the bus, DEA raids it. They find an oz of pot under the sink. You're carrying. Now you're charged with drug possession and carrying a gun while in possession of the pot. It *must* be your pot because you were the closest to the sink when they raided the bus.

Of course he's not going to get a fair judgment here, since he's black and he's a rapper.

joe817 wrote: All of this happened while he was awaiting trial in Arizona:
"Lil Wayne, 27, also is scheduled for trial in Arizona on felony drug possession and weapons charges. He has pleaded not guilty in that case, which arose from a January 2008 arrest at a U.S. Border Patrol checkpoint."

Not only do I have a problem with this person having a gun, but I also have a bigger problem with him being out on the street to begin with.

Why?

He had a gun on his bus in Arizona. How in the world in AZ, which allows pretty much every kind of carry and possession could there be "weapons charges"?

Turns out BP won't give up any documents to the defense atty as required by law resulting in another delay in the trial.

Come on, if the BP has nothing to hide, why won't they give up the documents?