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by chabouk
Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: To Chamber or not to Chamber?
Replies: 180
Views: 23149

Re: To Chamber or not to Chamber?

VoiceofReason wrote:Page 4:
Always store and carry this product empty, with
the hammer forward on an empty chamber.
Not even the product liability lawyers who wrote that really believe it. The engineers and designers certainly don't.

BASIC NRA RULES FOR SAFE GUN
HANDLING
3. ALWAYS KEEP THE GUN UNLOADED
UNTIL READY TO USE.
A gun that is locked and loaded and safely holstered is "in use".
by chabouk
Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:46 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: To Chamber or not to Chamber?
Replies: 180
Views: 23149

Re: To Chamber or not to Chamber?

jeeperbryan wrote:Yep, the chance of AD is definitely less than 1%. But it's certainly some value greater than 0% :)
To be meaningful for this discussion, we need two figures:
1. The rate of AD in guns that are always loaded, with safety systems working, carried in a holster.
2. The rate of AD in guns that are carried "less than loaded", then fired unintentionally while working the slide, or while trying to lower the hammer to half notch.

I don't know the numbers, but given that #2 requires more handling than #1, it is a safe assumption that the AD rate will be higher.
by chabouk
Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:47 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: To Chamber or not to Chamber?
Replies: 180
Views: 23149

Re: To Chamber or not to Chamber?

sawdust wrote:Being new to the CHL world, I am going through transitions of thought and philosophy very quickly. While I am not unfamiliar with guns, I am not highly practised with them. In getting ready for the CHL, I took some range time with a Glock. I didn't like it for several reasons, and I haven't "bought into" the concept of the trigger being the sole safety - I have been a victim of Murphy's Law too many times.
I'm not a fan of Glocks, but the trigger isn't their sole safety. It's the sole safety while the trigger is being pulled, which is when you want it to go "boom".

It might help you to think of it like this: DAO has been perfectly safe when it comes to revolvers, which have often been carried in pockets with no holster, for about 113 years now. (The S&W Hand Ejector was the first popular DA, appearing in 1896.)

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