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MedicMan218 wrote:

chabouk wrote: If they have a license, the entire property is licensed (as shown on their property map that is submitted to TABC for their license approval)

Including the parking lot?
I'm thinking not....right?

I think srothstein has commented on this before, but my understanding is that the "premises map" defines those areas where you can legally carry a drink, not necessarily the property boundaries. I've been to restaurants where they'll practically tackle you if you try to carry a drink out the door (not that I've tried, but I've seen others). The Texarkana Red Lobster had this problem after they moved from Arkansas to Texas: their "defined premises" was inside the restaurant, but they had an outside patio seating area where they would serve food. People were wandering in to the bar to order a drink, carrying it back outside to their patio table, and the local PD were sitting there writing tickets for drinking in public (it was a "dry", club-only jurisdiction at the time).

Mhoward wrote:I saw another post about the 51% sign, about how it was only in the bar area. I am assuming that companies can control what parts of the facility are under the 30.06 and 51% laws, but it is never OK to assume something like this. I guess if I go there in the future I will only sit on the patio; I will stick to the "I never saw the 30.06 cause I have never been inside" story.

The 30.06 sign only counts if you enter or remain on property where it has been conspicuously posted.

Companies have no control whatsoever about 51%. If they have a license, the entire property is licensed (as shown on their property map that is submitted to TABC for their license approval). And TABC alone determines if they are 51%; if they are, then the whole place is 51%, not just the "bar area".

Some states have laws that say you can't enter the bar area, but Texas is not one of those. If they're not 51%, you're good to carry in the whole place.