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remington79 wrote:You're suppose to apply pressure to the extractor so its easier to take the pin out. You will also need to keep pressure on it to reinsert the pin.

Thanks, but it's still kinda hard, however the AR is growing on me. I can't get over how lightweight and accurate it is. My wife hates rifles due to the weight but she picked up the AR and said, "ooh, MY gun," LOL. There is also zero recoil.

No, I am not talking about the trigger group pins. Please see my post on Sept 26, 11:53 AM:

firing pin retaining pin, extractor pin, bolt cam pin.

These are the pins in the bolt.

Excaliber wrote:

carlson1 wrote:

Abraham wrote:drjoker,

The 3 tiny pins you referenced are the pins for the trigger and hammer?

If so and you're removing them for cleaning purposes, that's (my opinion) not really necessary except once in a great while after shooting many, many rounds.

My buffer tube will easily come out without tools, but this is another item that needs to be cleaned, but rarely.

When I clean my AR, I separate it into two pieces, as this makes it less cumbersome for me to clean: The BCG and nooks and crannies inside where the BCG fits, the Charging Handle, barrel. And, that's as much as I clean.

It probably takes me an hour as I like to be very thorough. However, I don't clean my AR's after every range trip. I probably (haven't counted) clean after them every fourth or fifth range trip. I know of some guys who don't clean their AR's until a couple of thousand rounds have been fired.

No need to remove those pins. There is not much to clean on the lower to begin with.

Agreed.

An occasional flush with a volatile gun scrubber type spray easily gets the trigger group squeaky clean without disassembling anything beyond the field strip.

bayouhazard wrote:

drjoker wrote:Got my first ar recently. As a longtime ak aficionado, I have to ask if Eugene stoner was stoned? Who the heck makes a battle rifle with THREE tiny pins you can lose when field stripping it?

I don't know what kind of AR you got but mine only has two pins holding the upper and lower together. They aren't that small (similar to a 1911 slide stop) and mine are designed not to fall out.

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firing pin retaining pin, extractor pin, bolt cam pin.

Abraham wrote:drjoker,

The 3 tiny pins you referenced are the pins for the trigger and hammer?

If so and you're removing them for cleaning purposes, that's (my opinion) not really necessary except once in a great while after shooting many, many rounds.

My buffer tube will easily come out without tools, but this is another item that needs to be cleaned, but rarely.

When I clean my AR, I separate it into two pieces, as this makes it less cumbersome for me to clean: The BCG and nooks and crannies inside where the BCG fits, the Charging Handle, barrel. And, that's as much as I clean.

It probably takes me an hour as I like to be very thorough. However, I don't clean my AR's after every range trip. I probably (haven't counted) clean after them every fourth or fifth range trip. I know of some guys who don't clean their AR's until a couple of thousand rounds have been fired.

Got my first ar recently. As a longtime ak aficionado, I have to ask if Eugene stoner was stoned? Who the heck makes a battle rifle with THREE tiny pins you can lose when field stripping it? It also requires a screwdriver for the buffer tube tab and a small Allen wrench to punch out the pins! It took me forever to line up the extractor so I could insert the holding pin. That was A very stubborn pin. I finally soaked that pin in a crazy amount of oil to get it to slip in. Also, there are some nooks and crannies I could not get my brush into. At least the owner manual was legible in English. Lol.

The gun is lightweight and has zero recoil. It is much handier and accurate than the ak but it is a pain to clean. I have a friend that keeps buying new ar15s, shooting them, then selling them before he has to clean them, just to avoid the cleaning. I used to laugh at him, but I understand him,now. Lol.