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by VoiceofReason
Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:53 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A Right
Replies: 86
Views: 9197

Re: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A R

baldeagle wrote:
EEllis wrote:The first reporter to go to jail instead of giving up a source was in 1848 so it's not some new thing. I'll bet early press had no belief they could witness crimes
Clearly that's not what we were talking about or what this amendment is about. Why did you decide to introduce this bogus argument?
EEllis wrote:and then just not give details because they were reporters. Also lets not forget a lot of times the crime is talking to reporters especially when dealing with Federal issues. Whistleblowing may be one thing but what about people giving up real secrets for pure politics?
Given the selective prosecution of that "crime", it's questionable that you even introduced it.
EEllis wrote:The justice department already has rules making subpoenas to the press the last option for federal law enforcement not the first.
Oh, gee. That makes it so much better. We promise we won't violate the Constitution first. We'll just do it when we need to.
EEllis wrote:What about civil cases? Say someone lies and gives some false info to the press. Should the reporter be able to deny you the ability to find out and sue someone who damaged you? It's not some simple situation that is because "cops can't solve crime anymore".
First of all, a good reporter will have two solid sources, not one. Secondly, it isn't the reporter's job to hand you your civil case on a platter. What makes you think it should be?

The purpose of the Constitution is to tie the hands of the government so they cant abuse their power. Every time we ignore their abuses, we chip away at freedom. Eventually we arrive where we are now. The Constitution means very little, and the President routinely ignores the laws he is sworn to uphold. No one does anything about it, so the abuses continue and grow larger daily. It won't be much longer before America is gone forever, if we don't start drawing the line.

It's funny that we say, "Better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be imprisoned", yet we're so eager to help the government throw people in the clink for what we perceive as "crimes' because we don't think it should be so hard for the government to jail people. If someone commits a crime, leave the reporter alone. Prove a crime was committed. Do your job without taking unConstitutional shortcuts because it's too hard.

If a doctor, lawyer or psychologist witnesses a crime, they have a duty to report it. They do not have a duty to report that a patient told them they committed a crime. Nor does a reporter. And the government should no more go after a reporter than they would a doctor, lawyer or psychologist. Reporter shield laws would not be necessary if the government acted lawfully.
Texas Family Code, Chapter 261, 261.101 requires that professionals such as teachers, doctors, nurses, or child daycare workers must make a verbal report within 48 hours. Failure to report suspected child abuse or neglect is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment of up to 180 days and/or a fine of up to $2,000. Emphasis mine.
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by VoiceofReason
Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:36 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A Right
Replies: 86
Views: 9197

Re: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A R

Whistle blower protections need to be expanded also. Unbelievable waste, fraud and abuse is rampant in the federal government. Most employees (believe it or not) have a problem with seeing extravagant items purchased and money wasted and thrown away. Management then tells the employees the agency does not have the money to provide the necessary tools to do the job or they are going to have to take time off without pay. Some employees have even brought in office supplies at their own expense.

Contrary to popular belief sexual harassment and racial discrimination still flourishes in government jobs and EEO is a facade in the workplace. Everything is classified. If a document is not confidential or above then it is “For Official Use Only”. Cameras are not allowed even in areas where nothing classified exists and recording anything is forbidden.

The “whistle blower” cannot be retaliated against for “blowing the whistle” but other reasons can be found to fire him/her. He/she can have years of good appraisals, “blow the whistle” on fraud then suddenly their work performance is unacceptable, no matter what they do. If they (for some reason) can’t be fired, forget about ever getting a promotion.

Congressional complaints are investigated by the agency the complaint was filed against and guess what? The complaint was found to be baseless.

Journalists are protected but until employees are no longer afraid of bringing forward unethical or illegal activities, it will be “business as usual” in the government.
by VoiceofReason
Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A Right
Replies: 86
Views: 9197

Re: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A R

JALLEN wrote:Why do reporters require protection? From whom?

Why shouldn't reporters be required to appear and testify like anyone else? Why should their speech be more precious than anyone else's?
As I understand it, this law is intended to keep the federal government from intimidating or coercing members of the news media for “speech” the government does not want. Now congress, members of the media and people are caught up arguing who and by what criteria will decide who is a “journalist”.

I agree,
“Why do reporters require protection? From whom?” Why should their speech be more precious than anyone else's?”.
The federal government should not be allowed to investigate, question, or intimidate anyone without clear, compelling reason to believe they have committed a crime or intend to commit a crime.

You or I should be able to start a blog, hand out leaflets or say anything we wish “on the air” and enjoy the same “freedom of speech” rights as a paid journalist as long as we break no laws.

The “Patriot Act” has been allowed to go too far and is being abused. The Federal, and even local Governments have a long proud history of using the laws and law enforcement against those that say or write things they don’t want said or written.

Saying on facebook “(Insert name) __________ is a *&^^%* pig and (insert slander)_________. Is wrong and may be subject to a civil action (IANAL).

Stating your opinion or facts on a blog, why you are of that opinion and including references to material supporting your opinion should be protected just as much as anything a “journalist” writes.

Are “real reporters” going to be required to obtain a license from the federal government to be protected by the first amendment? This law was intended to restrict government power. Feinstein wants amendments that would increase government control.
by VoiceofReason
Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:39 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A Right
Replies: 86
Views: 9197

Re: Feinstein: 1st Amendment Is A Special Privilege, Not A R

People have short memories. I thought I would just throw this into the discussion. :boxing

October 11, 2009 “White House Says Fox Is Not A News Network”.

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