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by sjfcontrol
Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:21 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8303

Re: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?

Give me a break. Laws tell you what you CAN'T do. Not what you can! show me the law that says you can eat pizza! it ain't there. So you are now legally prevented from ever eating pizza again in this state until they pass a law allowing it,

If you can't point out the law that invalidates the Utah license when the texas CHL is suspended, then it's legal. End of discussion.
by sjfcontrol
Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:05 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8303

Re: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?

YANML --Good one TAM! :thumbs2:
by sjfcontrol
Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:48 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8303

Re: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?

03 -- show me the Texas law that says that out-of-state licenses are rendered invalid when your Texas CHL is suspended.

The advice to discuss with your lawyer is good -- and exactly what TAM said he would do.

And again, having your license suspended does NOT mean Texas has said you can't carry. It does not invalidate MPA.
by sjfcontrol
Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:38 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8303

Re: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?

03Lightningrocks wrote:
I am not sure that this is true. The part about loosing your right to carry conceal. Why would the law require I discontinue the right to have a CHL after a legit self defense shooting? Second.... if the law does require temporary loss of your right to carry concealed in Texas, trying to circunmvent that law by using a Utah CFP is sure to make the Judge mad enough to throw the book at you.

I have to just shake my head at some of the stuff i read in here. Folks!!!!!! If something legal says you can't carry concealed in Texas.... no other State can over ride that something while in texas! Even while carrying under Utah CFP in Texas, laws of Texas apply.

There are a few legitimate reasons to have a non-resident Utah CFP(beyond cool factor). Getting two additional states added to the list of places you can carry is one i can think of. Can't afford a texas is another I can come up with. Nice to have the expire dates offset so while waiting on the texas renewal would be another. Circumventing Texas Law is not a good reason!!!!

I have been involved in two self defense shootings. One of them the cops didn't even take the gun I used. The other got real expensive and they took the gun. Neither forbid me the right to own a firearm. If either had done this, i know for a fact i would have gotten thrown in jail if carrying concealed and used the stupid excuse of having a permit from some other state. LOL.
How do you "know that for a fact"? You weren't carrying on a Utah license, so your experience is irrelevant to this situation.

The fact is that Texas recognizes the Utah license as a license to carry a concealed handgun. It in no way is dependent on having or not having a Texas CHL. It is a valid license. That's a fact. If the judge want to throw the book at someone, he better read it first. The problem is that Texas suspends your license when you've been ACCUSED of a crime. (Guilty until proven innocent.) Utah revokes the license when you're found guilty. However, feel free not to get or use a Utah license under those conditions if you feel like it's cheating.

And you don't loose your right to have or carry a handgun when your Texas CHL is suspended or revoked. You still have Castle and MPA. So why wouldn't a Utah license work too?
by sjfcontrol
Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:05 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8303

Re: Utah or Texas ? Or.....Both ?

Crossfire Training ( crossfire-training.com ) offers Texas CHL (also at Cabelas) for $125, and will add Utah for $25. That includes everything except the fees to the appropriate states. Utah wants $65.25, and Texas varies -- starting at $140 and going down depending upon various discounts. Here is a link to Texas fees: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... tefees.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

However, it is not done in 6-hours. Texas REQUIRES a 10-hour class.
:fire

P.S. -- Welcome to the Forum!

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