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by sjfcontrol
Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:10 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: And don't talk to Customs & Border Patrol, either!
Replies: 20
Views: 6647

Re: And don't talk to Customs & Border Patrol, either!

bronco78 wrote:
chartreuse wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:Why is politeness supposed to be a one-way street? The officer (LEO or otherwise) can be as rude, nasty, or confrontational as he wants to be, yet you're supposed to be Caspar Milquetoast. The police can lie to you, but it's illegal to lie to them, even without being under oath. Seems backwards to me.
I guess because I see politeness as being as much about self respect as it is about being respectful to the other person.
:thumbs2: :thumbs2: As well as, let it not be said in court that you at any time raised your voice, acted upset or irrational, cursed at the LEO , argued with him (well maybe argued, but disagreed, yet cooperated would be better).
Point is.. It worries people in real or imagined positions of authority when the person they are "contacting" is quite, yet firm in there position of disagreement.. Frankly, it scares the crap out of them most times.. They are so used to people either being passive or going nuts.. the quite ones scare um.
I'm just saying that it should be both ways. If it can be brought out in court that you were argumentative, cursed, etc., then why is it not a defense that the officer was abusive, cursing, threatening, etc. Probably not a good idea to respond in kind, but it isn't necessary for the officer to be attempting to instigate a fight, either. Often, these tactics are used by the officer to intimidate the citizen into allowing the officer to violate his (the citizen's) rights. Volunteer to allow a search, for example.
by sjfcontrol
Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:22 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: And don't talk to Customs & Border Patrol, either!
Replies: 20
Views: 6647

Re: And don't talk to Customs & Border Patrol, either!

Why is politeness supposed to be a one-way street? The officer (LEO or otherwise) can be as rude, nasty, or confrontational as he wants to be, yet you're supposed to be Caspar Milquetoast. The police can lie to you, but it's illegal to lie to them, even without being under oath. Seems backwards to me.
by sjfcontrol
Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:22 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: And don't talk to Customs & Border Patrol, either!
Replies: 20
Views: 6647

And don't talk to Customs & Border Patrol, either!

Referring to the "Don't talk to the police" attitude -- This guy refused to answer questions by CBP (Customs and Border Patrol) officers when re-entering the U.S. (He is a citizen.)
An interesting read, and so is the linked response he had to many of the comments left from his original blog.
http://knifetricks.blogspot.com/2010/04 ... ering.html
http://knifetricks.blogspot.com/2010/09 ... ments.html

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